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A Publishing Lackey
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Posted - 24 Oct 2008 :  21:09:17  Show Profile  Visit A Publishing Lackey's Homepage Send A Publishing Lackey a Private Message
A question for Ed or the Lady THO,
I know Ed has staged plays and co-written plays, but has he ever acted in a play?
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khorne
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Posted - 24 Oct 2008 :  21:11:26  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage  Click to see khorne's MSN Messenger address Send khorne a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar


I can think of one example where heroes (knights I think they were) were sleeping waiting for the nation's time of need... It was in Cormyr. (Highlight for spoilers): They were all unceremoniously slain in their sleep/stasis by Ghazneths or the Devil Dragon's minions during the Cormyr series (I think it was in Beyond the High Road).

A fate the cynic in me finds oddly amusing. "See, you Cormyrean t@&%s? So much for your legendary heroes. hohohoh"

I know, I know, I'm a terrible person.

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 24 Oct 2008 :  21:16:49  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hmm, good questions all; off they go to Ed.
A Publishing Lackey, I can answer your query easily: Yes. Lots of them, from school and university productions to amateur theatricals of all sorts, and from Shakespeare and British farces to self-penned and co-written contemporary satires. Musicals, too (Wizard of Oz, the Sound of Music, Gilbert & Sullivan). For years Ed sang in choirs, and did radio voiceovers, too; I seem to recall he sang the wind-up song from Cats (Brian Blessed's role in the early cast: "You've heard of several kinds of cat/And my opinion now is that/"; I'm afraid I've forgotten the title of that particular song) for a campus radio spot, to run in the background. His Shakespeare roles were usually minor (various knights, dukes, and earls in the historical plays, and rustics in the comedies), but yes, he's trod his share of boards.
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THO
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 24 Oct 2008 :  21:41:29  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Helm

Ed or THO, if liches can learn new things/remember new people they met after they became liches (and what happened at those meetings), can they learn new magic - - and can they forget things? If they were already elderly/forgetful at the time of achieving lichdom, does their confusion/senility/forgetfulness continue, and even accelerate? Or not?
Thanks.



In the fiction, it seems pretty common for liches to forget their names.

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Blueblade
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Posted - 24 Oct 2008 :  21:48:59  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Yes, but did they really forget them "naturally"? Or did they cast spells to make themselves forget (AND forget having to cast the spells) so they're harder to target with hostile magic? Or did they just cast one or two spells too many, and start forgetting all sorts of things?
Wheeee!
Ahem.
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Zandilar
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 :  00:05:50  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by Baleful Avatar

Hmmm. Reading Zandilar's last post prompts a question: Ed, is there anything more you can tell us about the doings of that apprentice who's pretending to be Lhaeo?
Zandilar, I know you're right about that, but I've forgotten where that lore about the apprentice standing in for Lhaeo appeared. Can you or anyone remind me?



I know Ed mentioned it here on the forum. I don't think that tidbit of lore has seen print? If it has, I'd like to know where it is too.

I also have another question for Ed, may as well make use of this post to ask it... If a human suddenly knew how to take dragon shape (like from learning a Polymorph-like spell, or becoming a weredragon, or being granted the power by a deity), where in Cormyr would be safe for them to practice flying without drawing too much undue attention to themselves? (Especially if it happens to be a Good aligned human who was only able to take the form of a Chromatic dragon (a blue, for example).)

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The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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Markustay
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 :  00:30:35  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
While trying to find something for someone else (which I couldn't find), I came across the entries for the Dwarven Realm of Besilmer in the GHotR, and I realized I have no idea where that was located.

So the question is for Ed, but I welcome an answer by anyone who knows.

And since I'm in here asking a question anyway, the original question that someone else asked that I was trying to answer when I came across Besilmer was "What was the name of the 'Elven Port' in the High Forest?"

Any info on that locale would be much appreciated, especially since I'm trying to place it time-wise, as well (it seems to date to the MUCH older Crown Wars era).

quote:
Originally posted by Broken Helm

Ed or THO, if liches can learn new things/remember new people they met after they became liches (and what happened at those meetings), can they learn new magic - - and can they forget things? If they were already elderly/forgetful at the time of achieving lichdom, does their confusion/senility/forgetfulness continue, and even accelerate? Or not?
Thanks.

I know that Azalin couldn't learn anything new, but that was a by-product of his being a Lord in Ravenloft, and nothing to do with his 'Lichood', I would think.

Liches like Larloch and Szass Tam are always learning new things, so I think forgetting something would depend upon the individual, and has no bearing on their current state of undeadness (is that even a word?)

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 25 Oct 2008 00:35:45
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The Sage
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 :  01:30:46  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

For years Ed sang in choirs, and did radio voiceovers, too...
Just as an addendum to this,

Blueblade, Ed's touched on this subject [briefly] in previous replies to some of my Realms music-related questions in the past. Check them out if you're interested.

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The Sage
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 :  01:37:09  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I know that Azalin couldn't learn anything new, but that was a by-product of his being a Lord in Ravenloft, and nothing to do with his 'Lichood', I would think.
There may be a way around this, though, and at least for Azalin. One of the options presented in Van Richten's Guide to Liches suggests that liches could increase their power by enacting a special ritual. It's been theorised that Azalin could use this process to temporarily learn new abilities and such. However, due to the nature of his curse, and the Dark Powers themselves, I'd say this should probably be left to the DM to decide.

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 :  03:56:00  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, all. Scribes desiring a smile might want to jaunt on over to the Kobold Quarterly website right now (www.koboldquarterly.com) for their first Friday Funny, which is a true tale from the pen of Ed Greenwood.
Yes, our Ed, but whilst wearing his librarian's hat. Er, and his game designer's fishnets.

love to all,
THO
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Afetbinttuzani
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 :  04:11:05  Show Profile  Visit Afetbinttuzani's Homepage Send Afetbinttuzani a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hello again, all. Scribes desiring a smile might want to jaunt on over to the Kobold Quarterly website right now (www.koboldquarterly.com) for their first Friday Funny, which is a true tale from the pen of Ed Greenwood.
Yes, our Ed, but whilst wearing his librarian's hat. Er, and his game designer's fishnets.

love to all,
THO


Very funny but incredible to think that its true story. She sounds like someone who would argue at length over whether or not anal[-]retentive has a hyphen.

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 :  04:57:53  Show Profile  Visit Dalor Darden's Homepage Send Dalor Darden a Private Message
Someone actually did this? LOL

What a world!

ROFLMAO!

I was glad to see the last part

EDIT: forgot to ask my question!

Ed or THO...hands down, with no doubts...who is the best Archer in the world? We hear alot about the best swordsman, most noble Paladin and etc...but who is the best non-divine/mortal archer in the world?

Also, related to that, which culture of Humans has the greatest archers in the world; both mounted and on foot? (as two seperate questions).

Thanks!

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Markustay
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 :  18:05:13  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Great Story, but a sad statement about the people running our world.

My kid used to be in little-league Soccer, and if a team was winning, it wasn't allowed to score more then three points higher then the other team - you see, that would make the other team feel bad, and there's no such thing as losers, blah, blah, blah...

If you did accidentally score another goal (these things happen with 8-year-olds), the scoring team would LOSE a point instead.

Its amazing how the unwashed masses that embrace mediocracy finally managed to find a way to 'get back' at all those people who are better then them at something.

Treating children like fragile little dolls is in no way preparing them for life, and both my example and Ed's wonderful anecdote demonstrate just how illogical all of this 'over-nurturing' has become.

I took my kid out of Soccer and put him in Karate - at least he gets to hit stuff.

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 :  18:50:41  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
Markustay, Besilmer is described at length in Dwarves Deep, pages 53f. It was located in the "Sword Coast North:"
quote:

Its borders extended from the tree's edge of the Westwood, east to Ironford, and from there due east to the edge of the High Forest. At that time, the High Forest extended further westwards than it does today. From there its borders went north along the tree's edge ... <deleted details> ... to Tsordvudd (known today as the Kryptgarden Forest).

The Stone Bridge, the Halls of the Hunting Axe, and Pauley Pavilion are its most famous surviving landmarks.




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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 :  19:18:56  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
I have read Gene de Weese's Azalin novels several times, and I recommend them. If I recall rightly, though, Azalin had forgotten his real name before he became a lich, but certainly before he got to Barovia. Learning what "Azalin" means gave me a delicious little frisson, so I forebear to explain its meaning lest I spoil a significant moment in the first novel. For those made of sterner stuff, who don't mind spoilers, I refer them to Wikipedia's entry on "Azalin Rex."

I don't think that Azalin has ever had any connection to Realmspace in published literature, but that Grand Conjunction thingy might have caused some aspect of him to appear, however briefly, within Realmspace, allowing DMs to run those adventures (which are -- or were -- available as free downloads from WotC) with Realms PCs without fear that they will be irrecoverably lost in the Demiplane of Dread.

Van Richten's Guide to the Lich having been praised repeatedly here, I will add only that Realms DMs should remember that it applies in full only to the Demiplane of Dread, and it may not be 100% accurate there, as Van Richten repeatedly stresses. Lords of Darkness is the product to study for info about (some) Realms liches, bearing in mind that Ed has often said that every lich is different in the Realms, not just in Ravenloft.







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The Hooded One
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 :  20:31:42  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, all. I bring the words of Ed in response to Zandilar's recent question: "I also have another question for Ed, may as well make use of this post to ask it... If a human suddenly knew how to take dragon shape (like from learning a Polymorph-like spell, or becoming a weredragon, or being granted the power by a deity), where in Cormyr would be safe for them to practice flying without drawing too much undue attention to themselves? (Especially if it happens to be a Good aligned human who was only able to take the form of a Chromatic dragon (a blue, for example).)"
Ed replies:


Heh. Flying low in all cases, and away from known guardposts, your safest places are (in descending order): the West Reach (over the mountains), the Stonelands, above the Hullack Forest, and (least of all) above the King's Forest.
Good luck. :} Look forward to hearing what happens. Fly low and during fog, storms, or darkness, for best results.


So saith Ed. I want to hear what happens, too!
love,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 25 Oct 2008 20:39:16
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Markustay
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 :  20:48:43  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Might I suggest you paint "I'm a GOOD guy, I swear!!!" on your underbelly as well?

A good character that can only take the form of a Chromatic Dragon - your DM is evil - also looking forward to hearing what happens.

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Zandilar
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Posted - 26 Oct 2008 :  00:05:47  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

My DM claims he's not evil, but he has a habit of giving characters new shapes and making them the playthings of the gods.

In fact, she nearly met her doom when she went into the palace for the first time after gaining dragon form (she's a noble (newly minted, due to previous actions on behalf of the Crown)) to attend court, and obviously set off the wards! It was only the fact that she had won the Steel Regent's friendship that prevented the War Wizards from blasting her into very little pieces. (At that point, she hadn't quite won Caladnei's trust because some of the previous actions she had taken were rather dubious in nature (consorting with demons and the like), even if they were done for the good of the country.)

Thus far, though, the only time she's actually assumed dragon form was when she had to defend herself in the streets of Dis (long story how she got there!)... But she's getting restless to actually try out her wings. I will let you (all) know how it goes when she does... Right now she's trying to work out who is behind the spreading rumor that one of the nobles of Cormyr is really a Blue Dragon, and will probably shortly have to deal with a Malarite werewolf she confused when they last encountered each other.

Zandilar
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~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 26 Oct 2008 :  01:50:16  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, all.
Zandilar, Ed says that in light of this new information, his reply to you changes a bit:

Heya! The reason I ranked places as I did was to escape attention, but if your character is already being watched by War Wizards (magical farscrying), the Stonelands is almost her only option that won't immediately confirm that she's the dragon. They'll be plenty suspicious if they watch her travel to the Stonelands and then a dragon appears over it, yes, but if she's careful (open travel to Arabel, depart Arabel in a closed coach or wagon, depart a night encampment into the forest on the north side of the road, then work her way "in cover" up into the Stonelands) they won't be able to be sure, unless they've managed to plant a spell focus gem or metal item on her body, to "aim" their scrying at.
She will have to face all the monster, brigand, and Zhent dangers of the Stonelands, of course . . .


So saith Ed. Whom I suspect is a tad more merciful than many a DM . . .
love,
THO
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Markustay
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Just take the long way around through Tilver's Gap - if you try to fly over the Stormhorns there are quite a few flying monsters (including Perytons, Griffons, and other dragons) living there, not to mention a few clans of Cloud and Storm Giants.

There's a VERY good reason the Halruaans never bothered to build a large-scale skyship conveyance operation in the Realms.

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Hi Ed. I have a question about fiends. We've read many examples of celestials falling and becoming fiends (most recently in the Last Mythal trilogy with the Branded King), but I was wondering if there are any examples of fiends "ascending" and becoming celestials, or at least not so evil any more.

I've been having fun inventing stories about a Balor who became a paladin of Torm. That's why I'm asking this.

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im not THO, but on the wtoc site at one time there was a write up for a succubus paladin.


and then there is the one is the gossamyr plan and those in its series.

dunno if she counts though as i dont have any clue on her alignment

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quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

im not THO, but on the wtoc site at one time there was a write up for a succubus paladin.


and then there is the one is the gossamyr plan and those in its series.

dunno if she counts though as i dont have any clue on her alignment



You are speaking of Eludecia, though WotC did have her lawful good they offered also her as a fallen Paldain suduced by evil.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fc/20050824a

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Markustay
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

Markustay, Besilmer is described at length in Dwarves Deep, pages 53f. It was located in the "Sword Coast North:"


Sorry - I meant to thank you sooner for your response. Now that you've pointed out Dwarves Deep, I do recall reading about it quite some time ago (when that product came out).

I don't know why Dwarves even bother to build Kingdoms - they're always Falling.

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Zanan
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Vendui Hooded One!

Over on the WizBoards a question arose that could not yet be answered - for lack of official lore (known by the participants). It is a question which will, I would assume, be of highest interest to Elminster as well. For we were actually asking what the "language of Magic" is. The language the spells are intoned with, the language used on scrolls by all mages and priests about. I was, for all my days as a 'gamer' of the opinion that the language used for the above was indeed Draconic, albeit a technical version* of it. We could - up until now - not find a relevant source for this topic, be it core rules or FR rules.
I do know from the older books that e.g. drow priestesses sometimes use High Drow (of the old days) to speak amongst one another without wizards et al able to eavesdrop and hence also assumed that some of their more valuable scrolls might be "written" in that tongue" too, while dwarves may use certain runes as well. Maybe the archwizard can shed some light on this, if he has not already done so?!

Aluve, Zanan!

*Much like Latin used in medicine, i.e. not enabling the magic-user to actually speak Draconic, or Latin, for that matter.

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