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Kuje
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 :  06:29:47  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
Heya Ed,

You wouldn't, by chance, have a copy somewhere of the email you sent me two years ago about the Purple Lady Tavern? I have a printed copy around somewhere but in the last two years it has been stuck somewhere and I can't remember where that somewhere is. :)

If you don't, thats alright. I was just looking for it so I could keep a copy as a backup this time.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Vangelor
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 :  06:31:03  Show Profile  Visit Vangelor's Homepage Send Vangelor a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

(please keep them coming, scribes! He LOVES doing this!). His wife is improved but not “all better,” and Ed is settling down to a little “clearing up of unfinished business.” For one thing, (Canadian) Thanksgiving is almost upon us.
love to all,
THO


Thanks, and glad to. ;) And since you bring it up...

What is Canadian Thanksgiving like? How does this compare with, say, Highharvestide in Misteldale as observed in any average 1370's year? :)
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Jakk
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Canada
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 :  07:57:33  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message
Vangelor: I can't comment on Highharvestide in Mistledale, but Canadian Thanksgiving is much like American Thanksgiving, except five and a half weeks earlier. We eat turkey and many of us drink beer and/or watch football; the CFL plays on bigger fields with one more player per team in cooler fall weather, but all football is good if it's the right time of year. My only complaint is that the CFL season ends too early; I'd love to see more games played in the snow. But I guess I have the NFL for that.

Edit: Apologies for the RW interference... we now return you to our regularly-scheduled Realmslore requests, and I'm sure Ed will have something for you about Highharvestide in the Dales.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

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arry
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 :  11:15:16  Show Profile Send arry a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
His wife is improved but not “all better,” . . .


Good news, I hope the improvement continues
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 :  18:34:41  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Would that it had. Worse last night.
Jakk, Ironfang Keep is one of the oldest Realms NDAs of all. It was "reserved" by TSR for a computer game jump-off point (setting, not to be talked about in printed game lore) back in 1986 and hasn't been lifted since, despite repeated queries by Ed (every year or so, beginning in 1989). So I'm afraid Ed can't say anything about it at all.; he lasted asked about Ironfang Keep at GenCon this year, and was assured by a high-ranking Wizards individual that it was still under NDA (meaning STILL nothing can be said about it, by freelancers).
Ed will ask again, but he's not expecting a sudden rumbling open of these particular long-locked gates . . .
love to all,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 :  18:57:22  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Kuje, I just found Ed's Purple Lady e-mail to you in Hamilton White's backfiles, and forwarded it to you (the "rochester.rr" account). Is this still an active account for you? Should I send it to the hotmail one in your Candlekeep profile instead, or- -?
love,
THO
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arry
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 :  19:45:11  Show Profile Send arry a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Would that it had. Worse last night.



Bummer All we can do is send our good wishes to Ed and his wife.
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arry
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 :  19:48:25  Show Profile Send arry a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One


Jakk, Ironfang Keep is one of the oldest Realms NDAs of all. It was "reserved" by TSR for a computer game jump-off point (setting, not to be talked about in printed game lore) back in 1986 and hasn't been lifted since, despite repeated queries by Ed (every year or so, beginning in 1989). So I'm afraid Ed can't say anything about it at all.; he lasted asked about Ironfang Keep at GenCon this year, and was assured by a high-ranking Wizards individual that it was still under NDA (meaning STILL nothing can be said about it, by freelancers).
Ed will ask again, but he's not expecting a sudden rumbling open of these particular long-locked gates . . .
love to all,
THO



Hasbro is pretty good at keeping IP under wraps 'just in case'
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 :  20:10:40  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
Hmmm ... Jakk, I don't like American football (watered-down rugby!), but I am interested in having Ed present us with rules for some of the common physical games played in the Realms. Trying to comprehend the rules to British Bulldog last week made me appreciate just how vital it is to have detailed rules to a game. Dismissing something as a "ball game" isn't particularly satisfying: in the saga of Egil Skallagrimson, for example, he first makes his debut as a violent proto-viking by killing one of his playmates in a dispute during a "ball game." What was it? How was it played? Inquiring readers want to know, but alas, there are precious few clues in the saga itself. It would be nice if we had rules to games in the Realms so that we could roleplay characters doing something besides killing sentient beings to take their belongings.






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Kuje
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 :  21:48:49  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
I received and replied. :)

Thanks btw.

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Kuje, I just found Ed's Purple Lady e-mail to you in Hamilton White's backfiles, and forwarded it to you (the "rochester.rr" account). Is this still an active account for you? Should I send it to the hotmail one in your Candlekeep profile instead, or- -?
love,
THO


For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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AlorinDawn
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USA
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Posted - 06 Oct 2008 :  22:45:56  Show Profile  Visit AlorinDawn's Homepage  Click to see AlorinDawn's MSN Messenger address Send AlorinDawn a Private Message
Ed,

I see that you have finally signed on to do a mini adventure over at Woflgang's Open Design. Looking forward to your addition to the group!

P.S. By best to Mrs. Greenwood and her speedy recovery.

Currently reading: Eyes of The Dragon by Stephen King

Long live Sniffy Wigglebottom
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Australia
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  00:44:37  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

I received and replied. :)

Thanks btw.

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Kuje, I just found Ed's Purple Lady e-mail to you in Hamilton White's backfiles, and forwarded it to you (the "rochester.rr" account). Is this still an active account for you? Should I send it to the hotmail one in your Candlekeep profile instead, or- -?
love,
THO



Neat. Any chance you can soon shift this reply over to my account, Kuje? I'd like to try and include it in the next "reply compilation update" I've got ready to send off to Alaundo.

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createvmind
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  01:53:29  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Hello All


Ed do Red Wizards occasionally just decide they don't want to play the game anymore so go elsewhere and let hair grow our tattoo's?

Any phoenix creatures in Chult, any region where they may be found if one was seeking?
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The Sage
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  02:03:25  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

Any phoenix creatures in Chult, any region where they may be found if one was seeking?
While Ed may have something to add, I will say that Demihuman Deities notes that "phoenixes" serve Marthammor, Aerdrie and Corellan. So places that are important to the worship of these faiths may be where one could find a phoenix.

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Kuje
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  02:27:33  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
There's no need. :) See my post in Fillow's thread.

And sorry again THO for making you look for stuff that far back when I had included it.

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Neat. Any chance you can soon shift this reply over to my account, Kuje? I'd like to try and include it in the next "reply compilation update" I've got ready to send off to Alaundo.


For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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The Sage
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  03:05:11  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

There's no need. :) See my post in Fillow's thread.

And sorry again THO for making you look for stuff that far back when I had included it.

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Neat. Any chance you can soon shift this reply over to my account, Kuje? I'd like to try and include it in the next "reply compilation update" I've got ready to send off to Alaundo.



Ah. No worries then.

I'm kinda surprised I didn't think to check the other reply files myself.

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Icelander
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  03:44:18  Show Profile  Visit Icelander's Homepage Send Icelander a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

Ed do Red Wizards occasionally just decide they don't want to play the game anymore so go elsewhere and let hair grow our tattoo's?

I'm sure Ed can give you a much fuller answer, but I've seen several examples of exiled or fled Red Wizards in published Realmslore.

There was a pirate outside Aglarond/Altumbel, for one thing, and then there was the man in the Mage in the Iron Mask. I wouldn't be surprised if more than one reclusive sage or hedge wizard with a mysterious past turned out to have worn the crimson and come out second best in some struggle where there was no prize for almost succeeding. Thay is not famous for the mercy shown to those who displease the Zulkirs, but compared to what happens to those who reach too high and falter in that cruel land, it is but as a lover's touch.

Za uspiekh nashevo beznadiozhnovo diela!

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Jakk
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Canada
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  06:27:26  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

Hmmm ... Jakk, I don't like American football (watered-down rugby!), but I am interested in having Ed present us with rules for some of the common physical games played in the Realms. Trying to comprehend the rules to British Bulldog last week made me appreciate just how vital it is to have detailed rules to a game. Dismissing something as a "ball game" isn't particularly satisfying: in the saga of Egil Skallagrimson, for example, he first makes his debut as a violent proto-viking by killing one of his playmates in a dispute during a "ball game." What was it? How was it played? Inquiring readers want to know, but alas, there are precious few clues in the saga itself. It would be nice if we had rules to games in the Realms so that we could roleplay characters doing something besides killing sentient beings to take their belongings.



Actually, I much prefer rugby too... but North American football is more accessible to me given my pathetic and barely-affordable cable package, so it's what I watch more of.

[edit] But then... isn't rugby (and "proper" football, at least in England) simply "killing sentient beings to take their belongings" (in this case, a ball; rather like the Icelandic sagas you describe, which are among my favourite literary works as well... those and Beowulf)... or am I exaggerating slightly? [/edit]

And on a related note that's actually on-topic, I too would be interested in rules for games (athletic and otherwise) in the Realms. The history of the Obarskyrs mentions chess... is it the same as our game in terms of specific rules, or only in concept?

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

Edited by - Jakk on 07 Oct 2008 06:33:04
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Jakk
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And *one* more question for Ed... can you tell us what happened to Annam (the forefather of the giant races), or is that covered by NDA as well? Thanks again to both Ed and THO for all of the time spent and typing done to satisfy our (apparently insatiable) curiosity about the Realms.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

Edited by - Jakk on 07 Oct 2008 07:08:11
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Marek
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  11:49:51  Show Profile  Visit Marek's Homepage Send Marek a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Icelander

quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

Ed do Red Wizards occasionally just decide they don't want to play the game anymore so go elsewhere and let hair grow our tattoo's?

I'm sure Ed can give you a much fuller answer, but I've seen several examples of exiled or fled Red Wizards in published Realmslore.

There was a pirate outside Aglarond/Altumbel, for one thing, and then there was the man in the Mage in the Iron Mask. I wouldn't be surprised if more than one reclusive sage or hedge wizard with a mysterious past turned out to have worn the crimson and come out second best in some struggle where there was no prize for almost succeeding. Thay is not famous for the mercy shown to those who displease the Zulkirs, but compared to what happens to those who reach too high and falter in that cruel land, it is but as a lover's touch.



That's right and some Red Wizards don't even shave their heads. Even a few zulkirs do still keep their hair.
Some Red Wizards away from home, especially in uncivilized lands are known to have grwon beard and hair.
Anyway shaving head and body is more of a status symbol which sets the Mulans apart from commoners. Some Thayans do that just to fit in the society and pose as trendy rich people by sporting their bald scalps and their tattoos. As a matter of fact, also getting tattoos is a fashion trend in Thay and not related to magic. Smooth skin and tattoos get along together and magic tattoos are just a way to make a fashion trend useful. At least this is what I got from all I read about them. I think this also dictates the taste in beauty, for a Thayan hairy is ugly, let's not forget that the despised Rashemi are very hairy and Thayans are deeply racists. I am sure that a big % of Thayans of Rashemi ethnicity shave their body hair just to feel less scrutinized.

Edited by - Marek on 07 Oct 2008 11:51:28
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  17:12:02  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jakk



(snip)

And on a related note that's actually on-topic, I too would be interested in rules for games (athletic and otherwise) in the Realms. The history of the Obarskyrs mentions chess... is it the same as our game in terms of specific rules, or only in concept?




Aurora's Whole Realms Catalog has an illustration of a lanceboard set, and it looks so similar to our 16-to-a-side, 64-square game that the Realms game is probably an import from Earth. Drowish sava sounds sufficiently different from our terrestrial games that it is probably indigenous.

quote:
The new Realms is an Abeiration of the old Realms.

Quote: "Sweet..."Endquote






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Malcolm
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  17:13:21  Show Profile  Visit Malcolm's Homepage Send Malcolm a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
I have another Cormyr question. Feuds amog nobles, this time, while inside the gates of Suzail.
We know that many noble families hate each other. We can read in Ed's novels and elsewhere of killings and suchlike violence occurring as a result of such feuds and rivalries, even inside the city of Suzail (and it almost seems as if I should say: and OF COURSE in Marsember and Arabel).
I'm sure these are the rare highlights (or lowlights) of daily social relations. What about the more frequent everyday dealings, inside Suzail? Do they ignore each other? Treat each other curtly? Be coldly "VERY correct"? What? Or does it vary with the individuals? (Okay, I'm sure it does, so what behavior do the patriarchs and matriarchs want all of their kin to adhere to?)
Thanks!
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Blueblade
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  17:15:21  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
I'd like to pounce on Malcolm's question and add just one more addendum to it:

And what role do the War Wizards play in all of these noble feuds and disputes? (What does Vangey or Caladnei or Laspeera order various of them to do?)
Thanks!
BB
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Baleful Avatar
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Canada
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  17:16:36  Show Profile  Visit Baleful Avatar's Homepage Send Baleful Avatar a Private Message
Okay, as long as we're gang-tackling, here. . .
Garen Thal, what thinkest thou?
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Sage of Stars
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Posted - 07 Oct 2008 :  17:25:41  Show Profile  Visit Sage of Stars's Homepage Send Sage of Stars a Private Message
Ed,
I recently picked up a copy of your second "dark elf not drow" series book from Tor, DARK VENGEANCE, and enjoyed it. (For scribes who haven't heard of these books, the first one was the excellent DARK WARRIOR RISING.) I would have loved to see more of your version of the subterranean world mated to the Realms, rather than just the Greyhawk one. My question is: do you see the sort of slave-raiding that's a part of those books to still be going on in the post-Spellplague Realms, too? (And if so, where is it most active?)
Thank you.
P.S. Again for scribes not familiar with these books, I'm asking about "dark elves coming to the surface world by night to snatch human children away to become slaves down in the subterranean dark elf cities."
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