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Jakk
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Posted - 03 Oct 2008 :  01:44:52  Show Profile Send Jakk a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Oooh, Jakk, I was WONDERING when someone would notice that, and put two and two together to reach a particular total.
I did, some years back, when reading Steven Schend's Khelben the Younger stuff . . . and when the Spellplague notion first surfaced, I privately asked Ed: "This dovetail fits perfectly with that one; sheer coincidence, or - -?"
Whereupon he smiled and replied: "NDAs are darned annoying things, aren't they?"

Ahem.
love,
THO



I do love it when I'm right.

And that's the second time I've been right in a hypothesis lately. Either I'm lucky, or I do know the Realms as well as I think I do.

THO: Not to pester, but just wondering if there will be any more information forthcoming on the mythal cities as per my earlier request. While I'm waiting, I'll give you one more hypothesis that was touched on earlier but not expressly stated:

The line in the old FRCS grey box: "Smashed the black star! Dove! Dove!" ... I assume this refers to the attack by Dove and Storm on the Shadow Weave bubble surrounding Shadowdale. Am I 3-for-3?

On that note, are the fates of Dove and Storm still NDA at this time?

Thanks again for Ed's and your time answering our queries, and continued best wishes for Ed in all he's dealing with.

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 03 Oct 2008 :  02:38:28  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Jakk, Ed will say more re. the mythal cities when he can get to that request. As you can probably tell, looking back over the recent pages of this year's thread, Ed is pouncing on questions right away when he has the answer at his fingertips or answering won't bollux up some NDA or Realms designing or writing someone else is right in the middle of, and the rest of the queries are going on the pile.
As for your other queries: what's behind "Smashed the black star!" was revealed here in this thread by George Krashos, after recent events (publication of the Spellplague) made it timely to reveal some of his earlier private e-mail exchanges with Ed. It's not quite what you're surmising it is.
The fates of Dove and Storm are both still NDA at this time, I'm afraid. All Ed will tell me (though I suspect from his smiles that my conjectures have been close to the mark) in response to verbal queries of mine on this topic is: "Some people are going to get some future surprises, but others . . . not so much."
Ed promises he'll be more specific as soon as he can.
love,
THO
P.S. Sage, "Rantantar" is definitely a long-standing Ed Realms name, but that doesn't of course mean he named the last two apprentices rather than Eric doing so. I've sent Blueblade's post and yours along to Ed for the definitive word, of course. Perhaps Eric picked names from one of Ed's little "here are some Realmsian names for you to use" lists (which he was famous for, in the old days of players wanting his input on naming their characters).
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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Oct 2008 :  02:52:44  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

P.S. Sage, "Rantantar" is definitely a long-standing Ed Realms name, but that doesn't of course mean he named the last two apprentices rather than Eric doing so.
Thanks. I'm keen to see what Ed will say.
quote:
I've sent Blueblade's post and yours along to Ed for the definitive word, of course. Perhaps Eric picked names from one of Ed's little "here are some Realmsian names for you to use" lists (which he was famous for, in the old days of players wanting his input on naming their characters).
I'm thinking that's likely the case, since Ed has previously said that some authors/designers like to draw from his "pool of Realmsian names" on occasion, and then further define the character/s and relate them to existing Realmslore.

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Zandilar
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Posted - 03 Oct 2008 :  06:38:47  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by The SageI'm thinking that's likely the case, since Ed has previously said that some authors/designers like to draw from his "pool of Realmsian names" on occasion, and then further define the character/s and relate them to existing Realmslore.



Ooh, what I wouldn't do to get my hands on that pool of names!

Name lists are a wonderful resource for DMs. Especially since they make the world feel more consistent.

Zandilar
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Kyrene
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Posted - 03 Oct 2008 :  09:21:56  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe

The version of Firefox I use actually has a little button right up next to the search window that automagically converts whatever page you're looking at to a .pdf for you to download. There's probably something similar on most new generation browsers.

Malagard! I've been replaced by a clockwork-golem. Time to resign my post as scribe and put in motion my plans to monopolise the last remaining qahwa in the Realms.

Back, semi-on-topic—if perhaps already belated—but Ed and family, you are in my prayers. I almost missed the bad news, and then the oppurtunity to respond to it. Now at least I have. *slinks off feeling less guilty*

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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 03 Oct 2008 :  18:09:36  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message
Seems like it's impossible where Ed's restless mind will wander, so I'm going to give rein to my impatience and go ahead and ask another question even though I haven't waited for another answer, sorry!

Putting it as simply as I can--are "blueleaf trees" which produce the "bluewood" that can be used in magically effective arms and armor the same thing as the "bluewood trees" that used to be lumbered in eastern Dambrath? My sources are the 3.0/3.5 Unapproachable East for blueleaf and FR 16 The Shining South for the southern trees.

Thanks!


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Markustay
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Posted - 03 Oct 2008 :  20:43:00  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Quick question that I'm sure doesn't have an answer (at least not by Ed), but it seems an extremely obscure bit of Realmslore I was actually wondering if Ed was aware of...

Question:
In OA5, written by Jeff Grubb and published in 1988, there is the following statement -

"If the party shows an interest, Ko La Ko will bore everyone present with all of his sources, which include the Meditations on a Clear Pond by the banned T'u Lung poet Chi Chan, and the Scrolls of Red, said to be penned by the gajin demi-god El Min Star."

He is considered a demigod in Kara-Tur?!

But my REAL question - just what are the Scrolls of Red?

quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

Ooh, what I wouldn't do to get my hands on that pool of names!
Wasn't that the ill-fated proposed name for the fourth installment for the "Pools of..." series?

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Vangelor
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 03 Oct 2008 :  23:55:12  Show Profile  Visit Vangelor's Homepage Send Vangelor a Private Message
Not Ed, but chiming in:

I think, Markustay, that we need to distinguish here between the D&D game system divine rank of "Demigod" and a more loose definition "demi-god" as "a person above ordinary folk in ability or attributes, possibly through divine sanction", in which case Elminster, Chosen of Mystra, would qualify. Call it a case of difficulty in translation from the language of Shou Lung.

I would imagine the "Scrolls of Red" are a miscellany of advice and wisdom attributed to (but not necessarily authored by) Elminster. They probably contain a mishmash of "barbarian" writings from the West, possibly including things like fragments of the works of Alaundo the Seer and other sages of note, but ill-differentiated among due to cultural, historical or geographic distance.

Edited by - Vangelor on 03 Oct 2008 23:55:44
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 03 Oct 2008 :  23:55:32  Show Profile  Click to see Purple Dragon Knight's MSN Messenger address Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe

Seems like it's impossible where Ed's restless mind will wander, so I'm going to give rein to my impatience and go ahead and ask another question even though I haven't waited for another answer, sorry!

Putting it as simply as I can--are "blueleaf trees" which produce the "bluewood" that can be used in magically effective arms and armor the same thing as the "bluewood trees" that used to be lumbered in eastern Dambrath? My sources are the 3.0/3.5 Unapproachable East for blueleaf and FR 16 The Shining South for the southern trees.

Thanks!



Blueleaf and other Faerunian trees are discussed in details in Volo's Guide to All Things Magical, available as a free download on the WotC website.
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Zandilar
Learned Scribe

Australia
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Posted - 04 Oct 2008 :  01:19:41  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

Ooh, what I wouldn't do to get my hands on that pool of names!
Wasn't that the ill-fated proposed name for the fourth installment for the "Pools of..." series?





Very funny!

ObEd Question: I've been recently rereading Elizabeth Moon's epic series, The Deed of Paksenarrion. Has Ed read it, and if so, what did he think of it? (If he hasn't, he definitely should! It's a shining example of the sort of book I want to read more of! Strong female lead character who does things her own way, and is never second fiddle to any male (*mumbles*excepthergods*mumbles* but I can live with that)... to the point where she turns away romantic advances from a couple of male characters. Sadly, she's called to a different fate than to be that lesbian icon I'm looking for - but nonetheless, it's a wonderful read.)

I'm almost certain that if she wasn't writing about a campaign she ran or played in, she was definitely inspired/influenced by Dungeons and Dragons rather than Tolkien (despite comparisons, and despite the fact that DnD was inspired by Tolkien too). Especially when Paks is exploring "dungeons" with others... Great novels. I highly recommend them.

Zandilar
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~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 04 Oct 2008 :  02:00:20  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Heh. I know Ed read the series and liked it, because (years ago) he bought a second copy of the first book and gave it to me, recommending it (knowing that I, too, liked strong female characters).
As far as I know, Ed and Elizabeth Moon have met only once, at the most recent Toronto (Ontario, Canada) Worldcon. They were on a panel together, and really hit it off, handing off to each other frequently in the replies and discussion.
love,
THO
P.S. There isn't a single "pool of names." Rather, Ed has circulated (or included as part of turnovers of to-be-printed products, that in the end have omitted them) various short lists of names. When the 3e FRCS book was being prepared, he generated huge lists, which got chopped right down and combined into much shorter lists printed in the book.

Edited by - The Hooded One on 04 Oct 2008 02:02:38
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Zandilar
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 04 Oct 2008 :  03:43:19  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,


Re: Elizabeth Moon... Why am I not surprised they hit it off? Glad to hear he read and liked The Deed of Paksenarrion. To all your scribes out there, it's definitely a recommended read from me! (Might be a touch difficult to come by though... I got Sheepfarmer's Daughter (the first novel in the series) as a stand alone, then couldn't find any of the others in the series - in the end I had to order the omnibus version from Amazon.)

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
P.S. There isn't a single "pool of names." Rather, Ed has circulated (or included as part of turnovers of to-be-printed products, that in the end have omitted them) various short lists of names. When the 3e FRCS book was being prepared, he generated huge lists, which got chopped right down and combined into much shorter lists printed in the book.



Maybe I will do that name list I've been contemplating doing these last few years (grabbing all Realms sources and novels Ed had a hand in and making a list of all the names I can find (and the sources I take them from). I think I have all of Ed's novels (been collecting the ones I can get in hard cover recently).

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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Kuje
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Posted - 04 Oct 2008 :  04:08:40  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
Cough. :) It's been mostly done for you alrdy due to my NPC files. :)

quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

Maybe I will do that name list I've been contemplating doing these last few years (grabbing all Realms sources and novels Ed had a hand in and making a list of all the names I can find (and the sources I take them from). I think I have all of Ed's novels (been collecting the ones I can get in hard cover recently).


For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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DMJutti
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Thank you for your quick reply THO, and I will patiently await another from Ed. Sounds like his archive must be pretty serious, i truly wish i could spend a day rummaging through some of his notes. Though I do wonder how much of the clutter is faerun related material?
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Zandilar
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Australia
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Posted - 04 Oct 2008 :  05:12:14  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Cough. :) It's been mostly done for you alrdy due to my NPC files. :)


I forgot about those files, Kuje, sorry!

They would definitely make a great place to start anyway... If I recall correctly, they don't include incidental non-statted minor supporting characters from novels, who may only be mentioned in passing once or twice (or do they? been a long time since I've looked!).

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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Kuje
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Nah, they don't include novel characters less the chars were stat'd in sourcebooks/etc.

But I was mostly mentioning it due to the sourcebooks. :)

quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Cough. :) It's been mostly done for you alrdy due to my NPC files. :)


I forgot about those files, Kuje, sorry!

They would definitely make a great place to start anyway... If I recall correctly, they don't include incidental non-statted minor supporting characters from novels, who may only be mentioned in passing once or twice (or do they? been a long time since I've looked!).


For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Markustay
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Thats what we need!

A Faerûnian name-generator...

Sorry... just thinking out loud...

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Nah, they don't include novel characters less the chars were stat'd in sourcebooks/etc.

But I was mostly mentioning it due to the sourcebooks. :)
At one point, I did entertain the notion of compiling most of the character names I'd encountered in my reading of some of the more recent FR novels. This was at the time that Kuje was still working on his "NPC Files." I even thought about just sending him the lists I already had so that he could include a separate file just for the names of novel characters and which book/s they appeared in. Unfortunately, after about ten books, the project fell by the wayside and got replaced with *something else.*

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Kyrene
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quote:
Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe

Putting it as simply as I can--are "blueleaf trees" which produce the "bluewood" that can be used in magically effective arms and armor the same thing as the "bluewood trees" that used to be lumbered in eastern Dambrath? My sources are the 3.0/3.5 Unapproachable East for blueleaf and FR 16 The Shining South for the southern trees.

Thanks!


I think you are perhaps confusing the blueleaf tree with the North American bluewood (Condalia hookeri). Also, as per PDK's suggestion, see my last reply to your Dambrathan city of Hazuth scroll.

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Dear Lady THO and Ed,
An odd Realmslore question from me this time.
Does Elminster mind other Chosen (or anyone else for that matter) impersonating him? (I don't mean attributing deeds, sayings, and decrees to him that he didn't actually have anything to do with, I mean actually taking on the shape of the Old Mage and trying to fool other beings in the Realms into thinking they are seeing and treating with the real Elminster?
Thank you in advance for any answer you may care to give.
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crazedventurers
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quote:
Originally posted by A Gavel

Dear Lady THO and Ed,
An odd Realmslore question from me this time.
Does Elminster mind other Chosen (or anyone else for that matter) impersonating him? (I mean actually taking on the shape of the Old Mage and trying to fool other beings in the Realms into thinking they are seeing and treating with the real Elminster?


I have always assumed that (allied/friendly) folks are doing this all the time:

1) Sometimes as a favour - (as in Alustriel needs to be in Nesme on a secret trade meeting that has to take place now! but she also has to be at the Moonwood Tree Blessing Festival at the same time therefore someone else (probably Dove) impersonates her in the Moonwood).

2) Sometimes in certain situations with certain 'important' folks as a deliberate ploy to confuse them and keep them guessing (as Storm disguised as Khelben will act slightly differently/say things differently to how Khelben does). This makes sure that others of 'importance' are never quite sure what is going on and will probably spend their time trying to figure out what is going on rather than getting bored and getting into mischief :)

3) Sometimes just for fun! to prod and poke at enemies of the person they are impersonating, to generally act 'out of character for how they normally are' to a wider audience (creating gossip etc) and also to create 'problems' for each other so that the real person has to fix the problems their friendly impersonator has caused

4) I have no doubt that non-friendly others do the same to try to get away with stuff, but the Seven and Mystra's Chosen have the ability to hear their name spoken anywhere, so if the person impersonating them is doing something really bad I am sure that El et al will make sure that something is done about it.

As for minding about all this, I think El would be more relaxed about it than Alustiel, who would be more relaxed about it than the Simbul, who would be more relaxed about it than Khelben (who is probably not even remotely relaxed about it at all, unless he knows exactly who is impersonating him and why and Khel has the chance to give that person a very full briefing on what they need to say and do at all times (even down to how to eat their soup or properly raise their wine glass to salute Old Lord Roaringsides!!)

Just how I have always played them

Cheers

Damian

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
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Wooly Rupert
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We know that Qilué likes to impersonate Laeral...

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The Hooded One
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Hello again, all!
I bring you some new Realmslore replies and comments from Ed of the Greenwood.
First, he says this to crazedventurers:

Hi, Damian! Your reply to A Gavel about impersonations is spot-on correct (Khelben and all). I will add only this: for a variety of reasons, in the latter days of the 1300s (DR), such impersonations didn’t happen as often as one might think.

Back on page 70 of this year’s thread, Kuje asked for some Old Grey Box name and typo corrections:
“On page 32 of the Cyc of the Realms from the Grey Box it says Allyia came from Evenstar. Is that supposed to be Eveningstar?
Just wondering if that is another typo because I need it for our project and I can't recall a place named Evenstar.

Edit: I should know this, since I wrote about Corm Orp, but is the ruler's surname Hultel or Hulrel? Page 31 says Hultel but page 32 says Hulrel.

Edit 2: Samtavan Sulacar on page 33 is Samtavan Sudacar on page 52, which is correct? :)”
Ed replies:



Yes, p32 should read “Eveningstar.”
The surname of the ruler of Corm Orp is “Hultel” (NOT “Hulrel,” which is a common gnome first or given name in Faerûn south of about the midpoint of Tethyr).
And as Wooly points out, “Sudacar” is correct. “Sulacar” is a surname once common in Luskan (transplanted by sailors from the Tashalar, where it is still found).



And finally, Baleful Avatar recently asked: “Dear Ed, have you written any mysteries recently? (Fiction, I mean, not the "solve a mystery" FR scenarios you often run at conventions.) Do you plan to write any more "murder mystery" fiction set in the Realms?
I'm on a mystery-reading kick recently, and was struck by how well your writing style and the Realms would "fit" some of the older classic mystery yarns.
Thanks in advance, and I'll understand if this is NDA territory.”
Ed replies:



I’m afraid it is NDA territory, other than to reply that: yes, I have written mystery fiction recently, and it hasn’t been published yet. I do INTEND to write murder mysteries set in the Realms in the future, but of course that’s not entirely up to me.



So saith Ed. Who is doggedly returning to the huge pile of Realmslore queries (please keep them coming, scribes! He LOVES doing this!). His wife is improved but not “all better,” and Ed is settling down to a little “clearing up of unfinished business.” For one thing, (Canadian) Thanksgiving is almost upon us.
love to all,
THO
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Cool, thanks Ed. :)

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Good to hear about the improvement in Ed's wife. All the best again.

While patiently waiting for Ed to get to my two (or three? sorry!) pending Realmslore queries, I stumbled on another one.

I know that past maps of the Realms have occasionally fouled up Ironfang Keep, calling it "Ironfang Deep" and/or placing it both on the eastern shore of the Moonsea and in the north end of the Orsraun Mountains. On the 3rd edition map of Faerun, the error of naming is made at both locations.

My question is, is the second site in the Orsraun Mountains also a mistake, or does it also exist with the same origin (a second fortress of the fire giants of Helligheim)? I've seen references made to the dwarves of the Orsrauns in apparent connection with that location, but nothing that definitely indicates the origin of that fortress.

On a related note, is there any chance of finding out more about the inhabitants of both locations, or is Ironfang Keep bound and gagged by NDA?

Okay... No more questions until you've had time to find some answers. I promise. I'll try. Very hard.

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