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gomez
Learned Scribe

Netherlands
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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  16:11:43  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Menelvagor

If Alustriel is dead, who leads the Silver Marches?


Her son (I forgot his name).
I can only guess why Alustriel died, but I have the feeling that she simply tired of being 'special' and see her loved ones die, and that she decided to live the remainder of her life as a mortal woman.
I have the feeling that Elminster did not have a choice, and that the Spellplague 'enforced' his immortality on him. The Simbul, otoh, may consciously have extended her life (magically), probably due to a sense of duty and less mortal ties.
That's just a guess though.
But maybe Ed is allowed to give us a bit of background on in-character motivations?

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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  16:22:13  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
Folks, this type of discussion is better left for another scroll. Let's keep this scroll free for Ed's return, eh?

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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author

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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  17:16:54  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message
To help get the threads back on track, I'll post a question (which may well be answered in print before Ed can get to it):

Can you give us a few names of "current day" Realmsians related to Alustriel or the Seven? Given that Alustriel had more than twelve sons, there's a high degree of probability that she's the ancestor for many a leader or leading-figure in "today's" North. So any hints you might drop on the progeny of the Tall Ones and/or any others related to her sisters would be appreciated.

Steven
who would share more about Khelben's and Laeral's twins but for a pesky NDA

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  17:27:46  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend... Steven
who would share more about Khelben's and Laeral's twins but for a pesky NDA


That sirrah, is just plain evil.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  18:45:58  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Menelvagor

If Alustriel is dead, who leads the Silver Marches?
And how could Alustriel die of natural causes, but Elminster is still alive? He's like, 1000 years older.

From what I understand, from a part of the city section that was quoted to me, Silverymoon is listed as an Elven realm now.

Unless the book has a mistake in it, which is possible.

Edit: Sorry Sage - page 57 was showing as the last page, until I posted. Consider me chastised...

Double Edit: - Are NDAs the new Uber-Villain in 4e?

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 20 Aug 2008 18:51:00
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Menelvagor
Senior Scribe

Israel
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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  18:56:09  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Are there going to be more Elminster books in 4e?
And what other places are supposed to have survived the Spellplague and 100 Years of Chaos? What about the Bloodstone Lands, Cormyr, Myth Drannor, Aglarond, Shadowdale?

"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

"There are no stupid questions – just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."

"Let's not call it 'hijacking'. Let's call it 'Thread Drift'."

Edited by - Menelvagor on 20 Aug 2008 19:01:06
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  19:02:02  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Menelvagor

Are there going to be more Elminster books in 4e?




Comings soon:

Elminster in his Dotage

Sorry, I couldn't resist. El's one of my favorite characters (not just Realms, but all around) and I don't take kindly to how it sounds like he's been put in a retirement home.

I'm sure Ed's got a ton of stories he can still tell about El, the question is whether or not WotC would want to publish historical Elminster.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Markustay
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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  20:40:29  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Menelvagor

Are there going to be more Elminster books in 4e?
And what other places are supposed to have survived the Spellplague and 100 Years of Chaos? What about the Bloodstone Lands, Cormyr, Myth Drannor, Aglarond, Shadowdale?
The second question is one that Ed cannot answer (NDAs), nor is it one appropriate to this thread.

There are dozens of threads all over the Internet covering the changes, but the one I am most familiar with is the one currently being maintained by Lord Karsus (Dagnirion) over at WotC.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  21:02:11  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message
I think a new scroll is in order for what happened to(insert character/place/thing/region) after the spellplague, to keep Ed's scroll tidy and uncluttered with these legitiment, if misplaced questions.

Great qestion Steven, wish I had thought of it!

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Menelvagor
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Israel
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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  21:03:31  Show Profile  Visit Menelvagor's Homepage Send Menelvagor a Private Message
Then what about my second question? Can anyone answer it?

Never Mind, I've read what the FR Forums says.
the part regarding Elminster was intriguing:
quote:
Elminster: Hears voices in his head that he fears magic will release, due to ravages from the Spellplague. He no longer practices the Art, and has isolated himself, where others believe he is an insane hermit. He is a threat to no one as long as he does not cast magic. The consequences of this would be devastating.

I liked the follow-up:
quote:
The Simbul: Faked her death and now lives in the Dalelands, in disguise, presumably caring and watching over Elminster.


Still, this opens many new questions and possibilities. What are these voices? Why are they so destructive? Why would magic release them? What is so special in Elminster that he is the only magic-user who cannot use magic? Is there any way to cure/heal this problem? If so, what is it? If an ascent (mortal becoming a god) happens, and the mortal becomes kind of 'new Mystra', will this help? (In 3.5, most gods were level 40... El was 35, last I saw his stats... Fighter 1
Rogue 2
Cleric of Mystra 3
Wizard 24
Archmage 5 )


"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.

"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.

"There are no stupid questions – just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."

"Let's not call it 'hijacking'. Let's call it 'Thread Drift'."

Edited by - Menelvagor on 20 Aug 2008 21:39:31
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  21:50:19  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message
All of Mystra's chosen were given part of her essence. From Ed's ToT trilogy that detailed what Elminster was up to during Mystra's death, it was shown that he was temporarily given most of her power until Midnight was ready to ascend.

Methinks that El got a big shock when Mystra died and the voices are various magic-users killed by the Spellplague and, probably, but not likely, some of the various magic gods that died (Mystryl/Mystra/Midnight, Azuth, Velsharoon) and, if he accesses magic, the various personalities would try to redirect his actions.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Zandilar
Learned Scribe

Australia
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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  00:56:26  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

To help get the threads back on track, I'll post a question (which may well be answered in print before Ed can get to it):

Can you give us a few names of "current day" Realmsians related to Alustriel or the Seven? Given that Alustriel had more than twelve sons, there's a high degree of probability that she's the ancestor for many a leader or leading-figure in "today's" North. So any hints you might drop on the progeny of the Tall Ones and/or any others related to her sisters would be appreciated.


See, this is the problem of only saying "Alustriel had 12 sons" and naming some of them, and never mentioning the fact that she also had daughters in the published Realms. No one seems to know (or remember or even extrapolate that it must be probable) that she's had daughters too.

For the sake of my sanity, Ed, could you also include female offspring in this question too (as in her daughters, and those (male and female) descended from them)? And did Storm ever get the child she craved before she died (or whatever, we still don't have a definitive answer on her fate)? Or is that still covered by a big fat shiny NDA?

quote:

who would share more about Khelben's and Laeral's twins but for a pesky NDA



Steven, I don't suppose the NDA can danced around enough to give us an idea of the twin's gender? Or if they're fraternal or identical twins? (So far the weight's been on the male side, it's about time we got daughters rather than sons in the 4e Realms. )

Speaking of NDAs, I'm really hoping that some day soon 3rd Ed and earlier NDAs will get lifted, just so we non-moving-with-the-edition folk can finally have some loose ends tied up.

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  01:11:25  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

See, this is the problem of only saying "Alustriel had 12 sons" and naming some of them, and never mentioning the fact that she also had daughters in the published Realms. No one seems to know (or remember or even extrapolate that it must be probable) that she's had daughters too.

For the sake of my sanity, Ed, could you also include female offspring in this question too (as in her daughters, and those (male and female) descended from them)? And did Storm ever get the child she craved before she died (or whatever, we still don't have a definitive answer on her fate)? Or is that still covered by a big fat shiny NDA?
Well, Ed has confirmed she has daughters, but notes that they've received little attention in published Realmslore. There may be an NDA reason for that.

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Zandilar
Learned Scribe

Australia
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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  01:34:31  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

See, this is the problem of only saying "Alustriel had 12 sons" and naming some of them, and never mentioning the fact that she also had daughters in the published Realms. No one seems to know (or remember or even extrapolate that it must be probable) that she's had daughters too.


Well, Ed has confirmed she has daughters, but notes that they've received little attention in published Realmslore. There may be an NDA reason for that.



Ummm.. I though I'd kind of implied that in my post by saying "only mentioning she has sons in published lore"... I know Ed's mentioned (briefly) daughters here, mostly because I'm pretty sure it was in answer to a question of mine. Sorry for not being clearer.

I don't understand why an NDA would cover her daughters, but not her sons. (I suppose there could be an absolutely amazing reason for this - perhaps one or more of Alustriel's daughters is the result of a dalliance with a deity or perhaps an evil overlord or something. But we may never know.)

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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The Sage
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No worries Zandilar. I understood what you meant. I was just including a note to Ed's previous discussion on the subject in case other scribes were interested in the various tidbits about Alustriel's daughters.

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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author

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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  02:42:59  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

To help get the threads back on track, I'll post a question (which may well be answered in print before Ed can get to it):

Can you give us a few names of "current day" Realmsians related to Alustriel or the Seven? Given that Alustriel had more than twelve sons, there's a high degree of probability that she's the ancestor for many a leader or leading-figure in "today's" North. So any hints you might drop on the progeny of the Tall Ones and/or any others related to her sisters would be appreciated.


See, this is the problem of only saying "Alustriel had 12 sons" and naming some of them, and never mentioning the fact that she also had daughters in the published Realms. No one seems to know (or remember or even extrapolate that it must be probable) that she's had daughters too.

For the sake of my sanity, Ed, could you also include female offspring in this question too (as in her daughters, and those (male and female) descended from them)? And did Storm ever get the child she craved before she died (or whatever, we still don't have a definitive answer on her fate)? Or is that still covered by a big fat shiny NDA?

quote:

who would share more about Khelben's and Laeral's twins but for a pesky NDA



Steven, I don't suppose the NDA can danced around enough to give us an idea of the twin's gender? Or if they're fraternal or identical twins? (So far the weight's been on the male side, it's about time we got daughters rather than sons in the 4e Realms. )

Speaking of NDAs, I'm really hoping that some day soon 3rd Ed and earlier NDAs will get lifted, just so we non-moving-with-the-edition folk can finally have some loose ends tied up.



As they're really Ed's characters, Zandilar, `twasn't my place to either imply she'd had no daughters nor add any that weren't in Ed's notes. All I knew of were the children Ed had mentioned in print (and I'd expanded in notes and in lore in various and sundry places). Some of her sons were present at the rising of Rhymanthiin (at least in my notes), so I'd expect a few of them to be down in the City of Hope. Probably a few daughters as well, but I know little of them (which was part of my nefarious query herein).

That said, I'll say this much--the twins of K&L I'd mentioned were fraternal, a boy and girl, born healthy and beautiful. I can't and won't speculate on their status in the 15th century Realms, though I do have notes and ideas of mine own.

Khelben, in his past, has had at least three sets of twin progeny, two of which were both girls and one with a boy and girl, under different aliases (and the latter among these have their ties in Waterdeep history and in the soon-to-be-released novel of mine). Bear in mind, too, that this is in my conception and understanding of the character; if it's not in print, it's unofficial and noncanonical, so if you can find the hints in Blackstaff, feel free to speculate and work with these hints.

Okay, I've said too much already, and this being Ed's thread....I'll leave it to The Hooded One to tease you with said threads. She's much better looking in them than this old hairy designer.

Steven

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  23:23:36  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, all!
Well, I'm back from a few brief visits to GenCon, and Ed is back from an exhausting but fun time with many Keep scribes and co-authors, but rendered silent for another day or so by the latest layoffs from Wizards (don't worry: the Books folks who creatively handle the Realms are untouched), and by the need to get his car fixed before one of the front wheels falls off. (An hour ago, he was helping to hammer a control arm back into its housing, with the aging chariot up on a hoist at his local dealership.)
In the meantime, let me just add a few notes: Ed's snatch of soprano singing at the Spin A Yarn was from two lines Buttercup's song (Gilbert & Sullivan): ". . . I'm called Buttercup/Sailors should never be shy" and Zandilar, rest assured that Ed has the daughters you mentioned firmly in mind but they are even more firmly NDA'd.
Ed also has lots of future fiction plans for the Realms in mind, and intends to add game coverage of the countryside as plentifully and as swiftly as his schedule and the planned WotC channels (Realmslore columns on the website, probably) allow.
He truly cherishes the love and fierce devotion to the Realms expressed here at the Keep and at GenCon, and intends to go on try to make the Realms as detailed, positive, and exciting a place to read and game in as possible, come what may.
Truly. He's not a Wizards employee, not their paid spokesman, and not trying to gild over difficulties and awkwardnesses. He just believes that angry words can't be "unsaid," and that the best results will come from everyone working together to make the Realms as great as possible and at the same time, everyone making the Realms "their own" as they see fit, for their own uses.
He also told me this GenCon was superb for him, personally, thanks to the Salvatore family, several WotC staffers, many fans and fellow game writers and designers, and his good friends among the Realms fans and designers who hang out here at the Keep, and took time to chat and hang out with him at the con.
Ed is of the opinion that it might take a couple of years, but that you should see some new WotC-published Realms novelists, designers, and short story writers arising from the ranks of Candlekeep scribes.
love to all,
THO

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Zandilar
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Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
As they're really Ed's characters, Zandilar, `twasn't my place to either imply she'd had no daughters nor add any that weren't in Ed's notes. All I knew of were the children Ed had mentioned in print (and I'd expanded in notes and in lore in various and sundry places). Some of her sons were present at the rising of Rhymanthiin (at least in my notes), so I'd expect a few of them to be down in the City of Hope. Probably a few daughters as well, but I know little of them (which was part of my nefarious query herein).


I see, a cunning plan.

quote:
That said, I'll say this much--the twins of K&L I'd mentioned were fraternal, a boy and girl, born healthy and beautiful. I can't and won't speculate on their status in the 15th century Realms, though I do have notes and ideas of mine own.

<snip other interesting information that may prove handy in the right... ahem... hands>


Wonderful! Thank you so much for all that fluffy goodness!

quote:
Okay, I've said too much already, and this being Ed's thread....I'll leave it to The Hooded One to tease you with said threads. She's much better looking in them than this old hairy designer.



Nuff said, right?

Zandilar
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~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

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Christopher_Rowe
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One


Ed also has lots of future fiction plans for the Realms in mind, and intends to add game coverage of the countryside as plentifully and as swiftly as his schedule and the planned WotC channels (Realmslore columns on the website, probably) allow.
He truly cherishes the love and fierce devotion to the Realms expressed here at the Keep and at GenCon, and intends to go on try to make the Realms as detailed, positive, and exciting a place to read and game in as possible, come what may.
Truly. He's not a Wizards employee, not their paid spokesman, and not trying to gild over difficulties and awkwardnesses. He just believes that angry words can't be "unsaid," and that the best results will come from everyone working together to make the Realms as great as possible and at the same time, everyone making the Realms "their own" as they see fit, for their own uses.



This is great to read. Thank you!

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Ladejarl
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

He's not a Wizards employee, not their paid spokesman, and not trying to gild over difficulties and awkwardnesses. He just believes that angry words can't be "unsaid," and that the best results will come from everyone working together to make the Realms as great as possible and at the same time, everyone making the Realms "their own" as they see fit, for their own uses.


A wise man, the Bearded One...

It won't stop me from hoping they'll slip up so that the rights revert to Ed, yes I by lottery tickets to.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Hello again, all. Ed has returned, his chariot restored, and has responded to many recent questions in this thread with a blizzard of short replies, as follows:


Sir Urza, to respond to your Aug 13th query, back on page 56 of this thread: I wrote about the elves of Golarion (more than would fit in the product Mike McArtor was assembling at the time, of course, so some of it’ll show up elsewhere, too).

Wooly Rupert, Susan Morris edits my Spin A Yarn pieces and then Miranda Horner (the lovely Lady Gumdrop) gets them onto the website. This year, when she was doing so (literally in the hours before I departed for GenCon, and then when I snuck onto a Net-connected computer partway through my journey down), I begged her to find the “long lost on the Wizards site” first Spin A Yarn tale and restore the links - - and she eagerly sleuthed and found and came through for us all! Hurray and much thanks, Lady Miranda!

althen artren, the mountains west of the Dalelands hold just about everything in the way of mineral wealth, from easily-mined surface veins of iron and copper to “tubes” where lodes of gemstones can be found. Unfortunately for delvers of today, most of the easily-found and -accessed veins have been found and worked out in the past, so one must go into the monster-haunted deeps under the earth, braving drow and worse, to gain much (“mining” the ruins of Myth Drannor for gems and metal treasures was far more profitable than mining mountain rock, circa the 1370s, if one managed to survive the demons and devils infesting the place).

sfdragon, Menelvagor, and Kuje: the fates of the Seven are revealed in the FRCS or in Realms novels, or will be revealed in the fullness of time. One of the two ladies sfdragon mentioned is definitely NOT dead in the Year of the Ageless One.
Menelvagor, Elminster is still alive for other reasons, some of which will be revealed in the novel I write after THE SWORD NEVER SLEEPS, if not sooner. I’ll just hint this much: Elminster’s mind is a very crowded place, these days (“these days” meaning days in the Year of the Ageless One). [[So, yes, unless I get run over by a truck soon, there probably will be more Elminster books in 4e.]] As for your speculations regarding The Simbul: heh, you’re going to be surprised . . .

Ashe Ravenheart: Elminster definitely hasn’t been put in a retirement home, though I’m sure there are many times he wishes he has. The possible perils of bland food, boring routine, dementia, and smells are a lot less daunting than the perils he DOES have to face, trust me. Your guesses re. his “voices” are very good ones, and I’ll just have to correct you by saying [NDA] [NDA] [NDA] and of course [NDA], except when [NDA].

Zandilar, I’m glad you liked The Weaver of Dreams. I wrote it in half a day, once I finally got around to sitting down to do it, and had a lot of fun. I have safely received the file from this year’s Spin A Yarn, but probably won’t get to it until very early 2009.
As for your daughters questions, I’m sorry, but big fat shiny NDAs are indeed still in place. Which, when you think about, should hearten you (hint hint ahem hint).

KnightErrantJR, I believe I did meet your charming daughter on Sunday, but then again: there ARE other kind gentlemen at GenCon (and for that matter, I spend a lot of time at the con being, er, less than gentlemanly).

The Red Walker, glad I could brighten your day. Although we “industry professionals” often use the con as a time to sit and talk business (and meet old friends, too, just as everyone else does) GenCon is for the fans. When I meet you, it may be my two-thousand-and-thirteenth encounter with a gamer that day, but it’s probably your first meeting with me, and the gamer behind you may be awaiting his first meeting with me ever, and so on. Nothing in the world is more important than making you happy, hearing what you have to say (crit as well as kudos), and finding out what you’d like to see. I just wish more gaming company folks never forgot that.
At my first GenCon (Number 8, in Lake Geneva) all the “old pro gamers” were very nice to me, a skinny bespectacled and shy kid from Canada, and I will be d**mned if I’ll do less for gamers I meet now, than they did back then.
I remember meeting some kids from Kenosha at GenCon 23 (I think) in Milwaukee who were just awed by all the games or sale. So they’d spent all their food and “bus home” money by early Saturday, and were facing starvation and a long walk out of the city, so I gave them a hundred bucks for food and drove them home Sunday - - and was more than a little stunned to be introduced, at a much later GenCon, to two young gamers who’d been named after me by their forever-grateful fathers, because of that little, little helping hand.
Anyone who designs games for money is crazy (well, yes, anyone who designs games is crazy, but . . . ). I do this for the friendships and the fun.
And the few lines of cracked soprano I managed to croak out at GenCon (the front of that room was COLD, and since my throat surgery I really need to warm up my voice, to have any upper register or falsetto at all) was from “I’m Called Little Buttercup” from H.M. S. Pinafore (the Gilbert & Sullivan operetta).

Which brings me to wanting to express deep thanks on my part to many, many folks of the Keep who made my GenCon a delight this year, including Garen Thal, Steven Schend, Brian Gute, Jeff Thetford, Brian James (and thanks for putting up with my teasing you re. Toni with such grace and good humour, too!), Jaleigh Johnson, Paul Kemp, Erik Scott de Bie, and Kuje and Wandering_mage and so many, many more. I HOPE I got to meet the Lady K (I did, didn’t I?). I’m forgetting dozens more right now, but please believe me: I don’t WANT to forget or slight you, I’m just getting old and overloaded. (The Lady THO can overload me all by herself when she wants to, believe me. Umm, didn’t think you’d have all that hard a time believing that . . .)

To all scribes: I don’t care if you’ve sworn off the 4e Realms or not, you’re missing out on some GREAT novels if you pass over any of the four books in the “Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep” series that I’ve had the pleasure of reviewing thus far. Three of them have been publicly announced, and two were signed and given away as fast as gamers could snap them up at the con. In order of appearance, the three announced tomes are Steven’s BLACKSTAFF TOWER, Jaleigh’s MISTSHORE, and Erik’s DOWNSHADOW. Three very different books, yet all capture the essence of the great city of Waterdeep, and all of them are darned good yarns that I have re-read several times with much pleasure. That preceding sentence also applies to the still-secret fourth book.

And if you’re looking for something a little offbeat, WORLDS OF THEIR OWN debuted at GenCon, too. Jim Lowder ably herded catsXXXX er, thought up and edited this collection of stories by Elaine Cunningham, Paul Kemp, me, James Lowder himself, and such familiar names as J. Robert King, Bob Salvatore, Michael Stackpole, and Gary Gygax: stories we all wrote that are NOT set in shared worlds. Mine is a “sky pirates” sort of story from decades ago, and the other tales are similarly “different from what you’re used to.” A trade paperback in the Planet Stories line from Paizo. End of shameless plugs, I promise.

Edit: Ackkh, I'm getting old! I forgot to mention Monte Cook, Lisa Smedman, Greg Stafford, Will McDermott, etc as contributors to WORLDS OF THEIR OWN. Thank goodness Jim Lowder is nowhere near as forgetful as me, and got stories from them and still others!

I have some urgent matters to clear up after the con, and will plunge right back into lore replies as soon as I can. Which means soon, I promise.



So saith Ed. Who keeps his promises, believe me. (I once had the bruises to prove it, but that’s another story.)
love to all,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 23 Aug 2008 03:09:38
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That story about the two gamers made me cry -

Don't do that again.



Thanks for all of that Ed (and THO), typical ED as the consumate gentleman and entertainer.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

And the few lines of cracked soprano I managed to croak out at GenCon (the front of that room was COLD, and since my throat surgery I really need to warm up my voice, to have any upper register or falsetto at all) was from “I’m Called Little Buttercup” from H.M. S. Pinafore (the Gilbert & Sullivan operetta).
Oh, I would've loved to have heard it.

*The Sage wanders off to find his own well-used copy of that same operatta*
quote:
I HOPE I got to meet the Lady K (I did, didn’t I?).
I think it would be best to just let the Lady K herself tell the story of what actually happened there.

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thanks THO and send my thanks to Mr. Greenwood.


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Wooly Rupert, Susan Morris edits my Spin A Yarn pieces and then Miranda Horner (the lovely Lady Gumdrop) gets them onto the website. This year, when she was doing so (literally in the hours before I departed for GenCon, and then when I snuck onto a Net-connected computer partway through my journey down), I begged her to find the “long lost on the Wizards site” first Spin A Yarn tale and restore the links - - and she eagerly sleuthed and found and came through for us all! Hurray and much thanks, Lady Miranda!


I'd like to echo those thanks to the Lady Gumdrop. I had a copy of that story from when it first appeared, but I am very glad to have a current link to it, to share with everyone else. I have a lot of handy links, preformatted for posting here, that are scattered across various HTML pages of my own design. As soon as I found that updated link, I added it to the page with all the links to the Spin A Yarn tales, and I made sure the link was shared out for all.

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