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Fillow
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Posted - 17 Feb 2008 :  16:45:24  Show Profile  Visit Fillow's Homepage  Send Fillow a Yahoo! Message Send Fillow a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gomez

I tried to find this elsewhere, but I can't find it: the pace where Volothamp Geddarm was born (and likely lived).


I believe Marcus Wands (aka Volothamp Geddarm, aka Marco Volo) is the son of a noble house of Waterdeep...
I think having read it in Marco Volo - Departure

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I am a French FR fan, so please forgive my lapses in English language and do not hesitate to correct me. Thanks a lot.

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Foxhelm
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Posted - 17 Feb 2008 :  17:05:24  Show Profile  Click to see Foxhelm's MSN Messenger address  Send Foxhelm a Yahoo! Message Send Foxhelm a Private Message
My friend, Mr. Interesting, has a question...

Will Volo survive the Time skip and the spellplague or will we be dealing with Volo the Third? Is that not interesting?

HV

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 Feb 2008 :  17:14:55  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Fillow

quote:
Originally posted by gomez

I tried to find this elsewhere, but I can't find it: the pace where Volothamp Geddarm was born (and likely lived).


I believe Marcus Wands (aka Volothamp Geddarm, aka Marco Volo) is the son of a noble house of Waterdeep...
I think having read it in Marco Volo - Departure



Marcus Wands was impersonating Volothamp Geddarm. The two are not and never have been the same person.

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Fillow
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France
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Posted - 17 Feb 2008 :  17:49:27  Show Profile  Visit Fillow's Homepage  Send Fillow a Yahoo! Message Send Fillow a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Marcus Wands was impersonating Volothamp Geddarm. The two are not and never have been the same person.


Allright Boss.

I'm one more naive victim of Marcus Wands' hoax !
I'm unforgivable.
I was told that so many times before. I was so proud to be able to answer someone' question !... Indedd to believe to be proud to !

I'm so sorry Gomez.

"Today is a good day to smile",
Fillow Big'n'Book Mahlemiut 'Lead-dog', Son of Garl, Wanderer of the Masked Leaf and Namer of Oghma.

- Fight in the arena and have fun ! :
La brute.com
- Feel free to take part to these projects : Post-Spellplague bibliography ; 4E index project ; Taverns and inns of the Realms ; Dogs of the Realms ; Descriptions of places in the novels ; forums, RPG, FR Abbreviations and Acronyms
- Come and have a look at the already asked questions from the Forgotten Realms Trivia Challenge

I am a French FR fan, so please forgive my lapses in English language and do not hesitate to correct me. Thanks a lot.

Edited by - Fillow on 17 Feb 2008 17:50:31
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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Feb 2008 :  23:53:06  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Foxhelm

My friend, Mr. Interesting, has a question...

Will Volo survive the Time skip and the spellplague or will we be dealing with Volo the Third? Is that not interesting?

HV

Perhaps Elminster could just turn Volo into a frog lawn ornament once again -- "for his own good" of course!

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Asgetrion
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Finland
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Posted - 18 Feb 2008 :  00:01:10  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

So saith Ed. Whom I recall explaining all this to a TSR mapper (Dave Sutherland, now unfortunately deceased) at an early GenCon. Yet it’s a very good question, because I don’t think the explanation every properly made it into print in any official Realms product, anywhere.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 18 Feb 2008 :  00:39:49  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gomez
The Vilhon Reach does not seem like an area that would spew forth a happy-go-lucky failed wizard...



Failed? FAILED? Who says he's a failed wizard?


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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 18 Feb 2008 :  02:16:32  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello, all. A brief Realmslore snippet from Ed this time, in response to this brief query from arry: “A quick question for Ed. Do roads in 'civilised' areas have route markers/distance stones. (Not milestones as miles aren't used in the Realms.)”
Ed replies:



Route markers, yes, especially in swamp, forest, or “rolling open field” areas, where travelers in the dark, driving rain, fog, or deep snow could well blunder off the proper route. These usually take the form of stone cairns, often with a distinctive shape so they can be given names that even someone unfamiliar to the route can recognize: “Just past the Wolfhead, ’tis; the first little stream. If you can look up from the streambed and see Two Horns Cairn, you’re in the SECOND stream, and have overshot the first by a good quarter-day’s rumble.”
They may have directional arrows or information (“’Ware Bog Ahead” or “Inn, Third Hill On”) scorched onto them with a burning firebrand, but rarely have any formal distance markings.
On most caravan roads or pilgrimage routes, there will of course be inns a day’s travel apart. When traveling overland in much of the Realms, distances to nearest water, refuge, or good campsite in terms of portions of an average day’s travel (for a slow-moving wagon, pulled by oxen or mules) are what matters, not any numerical measure of distance.



So saith Ed, who has traveled farther in the Realms than any of the rest of us.
Love to all,
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P.S.: Rino, heh-heh re. Volo.
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gomez
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Netherlands
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Posted - 18 Feb 2008 :  10:22:07  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Failed? FAILED? Who says he's a failed wizard?



Well, I guess they wouldn't necessarily say it... not out loud...

I do admit though that I can imagine a character who might be willing to consider spending time as a lawn-ornament in Elminster's back yard for an extended period not necessarily a token of failure...
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Eldacar
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Posted - 18 Feb 2008 :  11:40:58  Show Profile  Visit Eldacar's Homepage  Click to see Eldacar's MSN Messenger address Send Eldacar a Private Message
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Wow, some scribes have magically-enhanced antennae. Please advise all that the Crystal Grot just disappeared behind a bright, shiny new NDA. "Just" as in: last week.

I considered asking my question about the Grotto a few weeks ago, too, but it slipped my mind. Oh well - guess I'll just have to settle in and wait to see if the NDA is lifted or produces something in the next year or two.

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 18 Feb 2008 :  12:49:45  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
... Or you could search Ed's earlier, pre-NDA answers.



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arry
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Feb 2008 :  15:54:10  Show Profile Send arry a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hello, all. A brief Realmslore snippet from Ed this time, in response to this brief query from arry: “A quick question for Ed. Do roads in 'civilised' areas have route markers/distance stones. (Not milestones as miles aren't used in the Realms.)”
Ed replies:

<snip>

So saith Ed, who has traveled farther in the Realms than any of the rest of us.
Love to all,
THO



Many thanks Lady Hooded, to you and Ed for that information. Ed also indirectly answered an earlier question of mine about the surfacing (or otherwise) of roads.

This leads to another question , are there any remnants of roads left by earlier civilisations?

I think I can say without fear of contradiction that we are all so greatful to Ed for the time he takes to answer our queries. Thank you once again.

Edited for poor spelling

Edited by - arry on 18 Feb 2008 15:55:55
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Eldacar
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Posted - 19 Feb 2008 :  01:35:02  Show Profile  Visit Eldacar's Homepage  Click to see Eldacar's MSN Messenger address Send Eldacar a Private Message
quote:
... Or you could search Ed's earlier, pre-NDA answers.


I have all of the "So Saith Ed" files from Kuje's site - where in them would I find said answer? I've skimmed them fairly often, but don't recall an answer to that specific question.

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 19 Feb 2008 :  06:31:19  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
Alas, there is no easy way to do it. You must do a keyword search for each separate file. If you haven't found a reference by Friday, let me know and I'll do a search on Saturday; I have no spare time before then.



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Kuje
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Posted - 19 Feb 2008 :  17:05:44  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

Alas, there is no easy way to do it. You must do a keyword search for each separate file. If you haven't found a reference by Friday, let me know and I'll do a search on Saturday; I have no spare time before then.


I only found a few passages, and nothing to large, about the Crystal Grot in Ed's old passages. Mostly about how the Crown uses the wealth from the place. For people doing a search for it, do a search for crystal, which is how I found the passages.

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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  00:43:06  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
The Crystal Grot is a secret place full of sapphires. The Obarskyrs carefully mine and sell [in measured quantities over various markets, Faerûn-wide] these sapphires to keep themselves and the realm wealthy enough that they can tax lightly.

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createvmind
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  01:28:56  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Hello All.

We have come to a discussion in game over magic bags of holding and what exactly fits through the opening of the smaller bags, I ask because I wonder if anyone in your game has done the old hide in the trunk of the car to get in drive-in movie ploy with a bag of holding. Can the opening of a magic bag be ripped by trying to force objects through it or does the bags enchantment always make sure that an object instantly enters the dimensional space upon crossing bag opening?

One more thing if not NDA, what is the progress of the Kir'lanan in terms of expanding and understanding the world about them say by 1375 in your minds eye? Have they tried augmenting race by mating with others creatures or pursuing magical knowledge? Lacking a soul would they hold an advantage in say fiendish interaction or would fiends after learning these creatures are souless then avoid them?

Thanks as always

Edited by - createvmind on 20 Feb 2008 04:44:39
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  06:58:46  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
Since 1st edition bags of holding have always measured 2 feet by 4 feet when seen from the outside.

The original AD&D DMG is more colorful than the current DMG on what happens when you abuse a bag of holding, but the causes of damage remain the same from edition to edition: "If overloaded or sharp objects are placed within so as to pierce it, the bag will rupture and be ruined, and the contents will be lost forever in the vortices of nilspace."

If you want to sneak into a theatre without paying, it's a portable hole that you want, which a friend may wear as a handkerchief or some such thing. Then just pray that he doesn't stop and chat with an orsar of the City Watch, because you'll suffocate after ten minutes inside one.

Either here or on MonteCook.com there was a considerable discussion some time ago about extra-dimensional ruptures caused by putting bags of holding into portable holes or other extra-dimensional magic items, and the consensus was that it was a bad rule from the start, and a DM should interpret the rule strictly (i.e., taking either type of magic into any other extra-dimensional space causes no problems, so your friend can use rope trick or Mordenkainen's Magnificent Mansion and enter with you in that portable hole without fear of the two extra-dimensional spaces causing a cosmic rift). ...


...


And I did all that research without having had any coffee today, either!






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createvmind
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  17:37:23  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Thanks Jamallo,

That still doesn't answer my question as to what dimensions of an object will fit through opening of a magic bag and is the object transported to space upon contact with opening or after entering opening of bag a certain distance, I think Wotc put up some info on how long certain sized creatures, could breathe in each bag type which is what started the discussion. Thus I'm trying to take out the "mechanics" aspect of it, I'm just looking for Ed's take on these type of magical items that contain dimensional spaces and how he envisions them working.

Thanks for assist.
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Rhewtani
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  18:45:26  Show Profile  Send Rhewtani an AOL message Send Rhewtani a Private Message
All I can ever find on Shadowdale involving Jyordhan is ...


"Aumry was assassinated by Zhentarim agents, who in turn were captured and killed by the warrior Jyordhan, who presented himself as the new lord (with the Pendant gripped in his hand), and was so acclaimed by the people. Unknown to most of the people at that time was that Jyordhan was also an agent of the Zhentarim, and the entire proceedings were a hoax.

Jyordhan abandoned the Twisted Tower, instead establishing himself in Castle Krag east of Shadowdale. His court was soon overrun with agents of the Black Network. When the people revolted, Zhentil Keep sent peace-keeping forces to maintain Jyordhan’s rule. Sylune, now aware of the deception but a firm pacifist, sought to keep the Dale healthy and intact during Jyordhan’s evil rule."

Is there more to this? Is there much Ed can reveal about Jyordhan that isn't under NDA for/from the Shadowdale book?
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crazedventurers
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 :  19:15:11  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message
Hello Ed and THO

Can Zhentarim 'retire' from the organisation peacefully - I am particularly interested in the mercantile wing rather than the Wizards/Priests (as I think those two areas are more in it for life?) - so if someone became very rich and could afford not to be involved in the cut and thrust of ongoing every day Zhentarim schemes are they allowed to leave and get on with their own lives? (I would assume they would still pay their tribute to keep Manshoon & Fzoul 'sweet' and stop anything unforseen happening to them)

Also can you shed any light on some up & coming merchants of the Zhentarim and what they are up to?

Thanks

Damian

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 24 Feb 2008 :  01:47:45  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello, all. I have only a fragmentary, teasing "first flippant answer" from Ed re. Volo's birthplace:


Volothamp Geddarm was born in a humble cottage on a tiny islet in the middle of a fog-shrouded bog.


So saith Ed. Who has not yet revealed a date, specific location of said bog, or other particulars, but will (I swear!) when I next get my hands on him.
love to all,
THO
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 24 Feb 2008 :  02:24:20  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hello, all. I have only a fragmentary, teasing "first flippant answer" from Ed re. Volo's birthplace:


Volothamp Geddarm was born in a humble cottage on a tiny islet in the middle of a fog-shrouded bog.




Well at least you've narrowed it down for us.

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 24 Feb 2008 :  04:51:13  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

Thanks Jamallo,

That still doesn't answer my question as to what dimensions of an object will fit through opening of a magic bag and is the object transported to space upon contact with opening or after entering opening of bag a certain distance, I think Wotc put up some info on how long certain sized creatures, could breathe in each bag type which is what started the discussion. Thus I'm trying to take out the "mechanics" aspect of it, I'm just looking for Ed's take on these type of magical items that contain dimensional spaces and how he envisions them working.

Thanks for assist.



Checking on the Wizard's boards for someone who may have participated in that discussion might be helpful to you.

I am not being flippant when I suggest that you might pose the problem to a local instructor in math or physics (probably at least at the High School AP level). Your question concerns topology and hypergeometry. Find the right instructor, and you might have ten or twenty industrious little students running equations through Mathematica (or maybe just using hand calculators) as they try to analyze the problem. You might want to be really audacious and ask the question simultaneously to M.I.T. and CalTech -- that should yield an answer pretty darn quick. You will, alas, have no claim to any primary patents which they might wind up taking out as a result of their research. I'd hazard a guess that at least two-thirds of the students at both schools have worked on the problem already at some time in their lives, and they may just need a formal benediction before they attack the problem formally (probably trying to prove or disprove M-theory in the process).


If it's a purely game-mechanical question to which you seek the answer (e.g., "how far can I thrust my awl pike into a bag of holding before I impale Schrödinger's blasted cat, who's crawled inside it again?"), you might have to make inquiry to the masters of the eldest lore, Gygax and Arnesen and Grubb and other hallow

ed lore-saints.

As far as I know, there isn't anything special about a bag of holding on Toril as opposed to one on Krynn or Oerth -- they are all pretty much of a muchness. Pressing Ed for an answer may run into Otiluke's Impertinent NDA Screen, for I asked him early last year about Imaskari extra-dimensional spaces (Volo has written of them or others like them), and Ed was less than forthcoming, possibly because he knew that certain Imaskari ruins were about to be discovered by characters in a novel.

Bur, as always, "What do I know?"






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xaeyruudh
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greetings Ed and THO!

apologies if this has already been definitively addressed somewhere, but i haven't seen it.

assuming someone cared enough about the origin of orcs, could the large majority of orcs currently in the Realms be traced back to the hordes that stepped through the Orcgate? or were there already large numbers of orcs in the Realms, and the newcomers merely became a new subculture?

many thanks for sharing your minds with us!

Edit: there's a dark space on my bookshelves where the Grand History of the Realms should stand, but i found in an early pdf version a mention of the elves' early success against orcs in the First Flowering. so i suppose that answers my question, and i'll assume that the orcs of the Akanapeaks, Galena Mountains, Moonsea, and so forth were perhaps initially descended of the Orcgate hordes.

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Edited by - xaeyruudh on 24 Feb 2008 20:06:43
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