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Gustaveren
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Denmark
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Posted - 27 Nov 2012 :  19:09:09  Show Profile  Visit Gustaveren's Homepage Send Gustaveren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well, i voted no since they have never been a problem for me.
I was tempted to vote yes since they have positively influenced some of my campaigns
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Marc
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Posted - 30 Nov 2012 :  20:08:57  Show Profile Send Marc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In the Forgotten Realms it's not a problem, but in planar campaigns I would lower the levels of most NPC's above CR 20.

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MrHedgehog
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Posted - 30 Nov 2012 :  22:10:52  Show Profile  Visit MrHedgehog's Homepage Send MrHedgehog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In a planar campaign I think epic levels make more sense. How could you explore the Abyss if you're not super powerful? If I played a campaign to a high level I would expect to be planes walking.
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Razz
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Posted - 01 Dec 2012 :  05:37:15  Show Profile  Visit Razz's Homepage  Send Razz an AOL message Send Razz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I never understood the reasoning behind not having uber NPCs in a game world. I find it completely ridiculous and unbelievable that a handful of PCs are the ONLY ones able to attain such power. There's always a "mighty wizard" or "legendary warrior" somewhere around the corner. Someone has to kick the ass of that great wyrm halfway across the world while the PCs are in their home kingdom taking down a lich and its minions.

DM has full control. In my Realms game, unless I need an NPC of such magnitude to keep a plot going, they stay out the picture. Either busy to themselves, plane-hopping, taking down some world threat deep in the Underdark, whatever. They have their own story going and my PCs have theirs. Simple as that.

Anyone complaining about uber NPCs just simply cannot control their own game it seems.
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Marc
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Posted - 01 Dec 2012 :  09:17:18  Show Profile Send Marc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by MrHedgehog

In a planar campaign I think epic levels make more sense. How could you explore the Abyss if you're not super powerful? If I played a campaign to a high level I would expect to be planes walking.



Yet balors are not epic. In Sigil, where is my campaign, you have two epic characters, Lothar of Bones and Zadara the Titan, and two near epic, factols Rowan and Pentar. There would be disbalance between the prime NPC's visiting, it's easier to lower their stats than increase the local high-ups when you're using Pathfinder, where level cap is 20.

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Thauranil
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India
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Posted - 02 Dec 2012 :  07:21:38  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe that these characters are iconic and the Realms would be a much poorer place without them.
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Kyrel
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Posted - 02 Dec 2012 :  15:58:25  Show Profile  Visit Kyrel's Homepage Send Kyrel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To me it's a clear no. High power NPC's have never caused me any worry or problems. In my book characters like that are part of the tapestry that make up the world, and they help to make the setting come alive. They are not someone that the players are ever likely to meet in person. If I need someone to throw assignments at the PC's, I only on the very rarest of circumstances will use one of the super NPC's like the Chosen. There are plenty of alternative ways to throw jobs at the PC's that don't involve named NPC's like that.
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TBeholder
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Posted - 07 Dec 2012 :  11:12:36  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can't see what's so bad about powerful NPC. Yup, gods and their right-hand servants are the bigger fish. So are many others. Where's the problem?
Unless there's an unspoken assumption, e.g. that PCs are "supposed to" be the most powerful guys stomping around and saving the world again (noticed this strange notion repeatedly). In which case "OMG there are May Sues running over!" translates to the Honest simply as "my PC applied for Mary Sue job, but failed to get it". Which is rather lulzful as such, in my opinion.

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