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Alaundo
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Posted - 02 Nov 2007 :  15:54:58  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Well met

This is a Book Club thread for Neversfall (Book 1 of the Citadels series), by Ed Gentry. Please discuss chapters 1 - 5 herein.

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EdGentry
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 :  18:09:41  Show Profile  Visit EdGentry's Homepage Send EdGentry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Let me tell you...seeing this thread just made the release more real somehow.

I look forward to answering any questions I can from folks here. Thank you, in advance, to anyone who participates.

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Posted - 06 Nov 2007 :  10:24:19  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EdGentry

Let me tell you...seeing this thread just made the release more real somehow.

I look forward to answering any questions I can from folks here. Thank you, in advance, to anyone who participates.



Well met

Glad to hear of your presence, Ed, and i'll look forward to seeing the discussions taking place herein.

Do you have a release date for this (on my last check, it was listed for 24th Nov)

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EdGentry
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Posted - 06 Nov 2007 :  13:38:37  Show Profile  Visit EdGentry's Homepage Send EdGentry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe it's now showing November 27. My editor last told me that she had paper copies in her hands and that hopefully I would soon as well.

Also, a short story I wrote to accompany the book should be up on their site soon as well.

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hawkytom
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Posted - 16 Nov 2007 :  07:35:46  Show Profile Send hawkytom a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Looking forward to Novemeber 27th Ed! :) Hoping one of my local book stores has it on shelves in the morning!!

Any Lone Wolf fans? Old school gamebooks from the 80's? They are being re-released/updated, and new books 29-32 being written: http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/novels/lonewolfsolo.html

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EdGentry
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Posted - 16 Nov 2007 :  13:49:58  Show Profile  Visit EdGentry's Homepage Send EdGentry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks very much hawkytom. If you want a shot at an advanced copy, free, check out the Novels section of Candlekeep and try your hand at my contest described in the Citadels thread!

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 03 Dec 2007 :  21:08:32  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just showed up in my local store last night. Read the first two chapters and so far so good. It is set in an area unfamiliar to me so I am not familiar with a few of the weapons and what the general look of the uniforms and peoples and such. Enjoying the differences in the two groups fighting together. The maquar (The elitest better than you , but we will let you die for us) and the Durpari (mercenaries, who I already feel to be far more noble than their "Betters"). I see alot of opportunity for discord and lessons to be learned. I see some "come uppance" on the way for Jhoqu and Taennen at the hands of Adeenya and Marlke.

Also good to see an enemy unfamiliar to me, I look forward to learning more about them.

P.S. I can't believe your first big battle had half-giants and no metion of the dwarf!! That is Blasphemy!! (I am sure my good friend Chosen of Moradin will have words for you on this)

P.S.S. The map took the "suspense" of Taennen's injury in battle away. It could have been a nice touch to tease with the death of someone who seemed so important.

Unless of course, his quarters on the map were named as a memorial

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963

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EdGentry
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  01:29:41  Show Profile  Visit EdGentry's Homepage Send EdGentry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
RW, I'm glad you're enjoying it.

That's a great point about the map! That hadn't occurred to me at all. I'll have to pass that on to my editor. It's funny when you think about it.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it as you go.

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Ranak
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  09:09:21  Show Profile  Visit Ranak's Homepage Send Ranak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EdGentry

RW, I'm glad you're enjoying it.

That's a great point about the map! That hadn't occurred to me at all. I'll have to pass that on to my editor. It's funny when you think about it.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it as you go.



It was also little disappointing that they printed Elaine Cunningham's praise for your handling of the formians in the front of the book. It sort of takes the mystery out of "I wonder what the heck is going on at Neversfall?" Guess its formians...

I am only up to chapter 3 and so far I am really liking it, other than the formian spoiler. It is great that you introduce the Adama so early, it really cements the setting. The Persian colors of the Maquar was also a nice touch. I haven't had a chance to really get to know any of the characters, so I will comment on them later.
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EdGentry
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  13:19:27  Show Profile  Visit EdGentry's Homepage Send EdGentry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ranak,

I think you will find that the formians quote is really not so much of a spoiler as you might think . When you finish the book I would be really curious to revisit this topic with you to see if I'm correct about that.

I'm glad you're enjoying it!

Also, be sure to check out the companion story ("The Way") I wrote now available on the WotC site. The story is set before the events of the book and focus on Corbrinn, who is a secondary character in the novel, and how he came to find himself entangled in the events from the book.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  19:48:11  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EdGentry

Ranak,

I think you will find that the formians quote is really not so much of a spoiler as you might think . When you finish the book I would be really curious to revisit this topic with you to see if I'm correct about that.

I'm glad you're enjoying it!

Also, be sure to check out the companion story ("The Way") I wrote now available on the WotC site. The story is set before the events of the book and focus on Corbrinn, who is a secondary character in the novel, and how he came to find himself entangled in the events from the book.



Are you talking about this Story?

Very cool Ed, I will read it after I get home from work! And can Anyone tell me what taennen's weapon (Khopek? sp) looks like?



A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963

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EdGentry
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  19:54:12  Show Profile  Visit EdGentry's Homepage Send EdGentry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
RW, thanks for linking it! I forgot to do so in my original post. I'll link it here again for everyone.
http://ww2.wizards.com/Books/Wizards/?doc=fr_neversfalltheway

Here's a link to a lovely example of a Khopesh:
http://www.aurorahistoryboutique.com/R000705.htm

I hope you enjoy the story.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 04 Dec 2007 :  20:03:36  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EdGentry

RW, thanks for linking it! I forgot to do so in my original post. I'll link it here again for everyone.
http://ww2.wizards.com/Books/Wizards/?doc=fr_neversfalltheway

Here's a link to a lovely example of a Khopesh:
http://www.aurorahistoryboutique.com/R000705.htm

I hope you enjoy the story.



Thanks Ed! I had in mind the swords the big bad mummies used in The Mummy Returns and that is very close. I got a bit of an egyptian flair when you described the colors of uniforms, but then they screamed that they were fighting fo the Rajah...so I was not so sure about the weapons looking "egyptian".

P.S. I am enjoying the story, I really like Adeenya, Taennen shows signs of growth and Jhoqo(no matter how cool and unusual his name is) is a pompous, arrogant ass. Good writing! If you are not careful you will have me comparing your writing with Erik's.

Question is, is that a good thing or not?

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EdGentry
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 :  02:30:27  Show Profile  Visit EdGentry's Homepage Send EdGentry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
RW,

I was shooting for Turkish meets Egyptian meets just a touch of Russian, so I think conjuring the Egyptian images is spot on.

I'm glad someone else likes the name Jhoqo. It came to me before any of the others, actually. I hope for the day someone says to me that they stole the name for use in a D&D game or something. That'd be a heck of a kick!

I hope you continue to enjoy the book.

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EdGentry
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 :  03:52:10  Show Profile  Visit EdGentry's Homepage Send EdGentry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just realized you're an Indianan too, RW. Glad to know someone in the state is reading it, heh

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 :  21:27:23  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EdGentry

I just realized you're an Indianan too, RW. Glad to know someone in the state is reading it, heh



It's very cool to find out it was written by a fellow Indiananite

With your proper use of big words and phrases, you obviously did not go to IU

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EdGentry
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Posted - 06 Dec 2007 :  01:15:20  Show Profile  Visit EdGentry's Homepage Send EdGentry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As a matter of fact I did attend IU-B.

However, as someone in student services, I understand your disbelief!

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Matthus
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Posted - 19 Dec 2007 :  17:05:01  Show Profile Send Matthus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Started yesterday and are eager to continue it.

I did some research for a Mulhorand campaign and may have seen even nastier Khopesh’s than the “nice” link you posted - something that makes the reading all the more exciting
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EdGentry
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Posted - 20 Dec 2007 :  04:58:16  Show Profile  Visit EdGentry's Homepage Send EdGentry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Matthus! I'm glad you like it so far. I'll look forward to hearing your thoughts as you go.

The khopesh has long been one of my favorite weapons so it was an easy choice for Taennen who tries so hard to fit into the Maquar mold but still has those points of individuality he just can't leave behind.

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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  03:28:34  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well between my Networking and Telecommunication class and my purchase and subsequent addiction to working on my sketches in Photoshop CS3, I finally managed to finish The Nether Scroll and dive into this tome. I'm only a few pages in, but I am already loving it. For some reason I haven't pinpointed yet, I have taken an immediate liking to Adeenya, and the names, titles, descriptions of the uniforms, and inclusion of the Adama has me feeling fully immersed in the region.

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EdGentry
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  13:19:55  Show Profile  Visit EdGentry's Homepage Send EdGentry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Very glad to hear it Xysma! It seems that Adeenya is a lot of people's favorite character in the novel. I look forward to hearing your thoughts as you continue.

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Lady Fellshot
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Picked up the book yesterday and enjoying it so far ^.^

It may be just me, but I'm seeing a lot of similarities between the formians and the Maquar. Obeidiance to an absolute authority, single minded adherence to their laws, wariness and mistrust of outsiders... I really hope later on the Durpari come through all right, especially Adeenya and Marlke. I also hope that Taennen has some sense knocked into him eventually.
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EdGentry
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Posted - 05 Feb 2008 :  03:56:33  Show Profile  Visit EdGentry's Homepage Send EdGentry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lady,

Thanks for picking up the book and for commenting here. I'd be glad to answer any questions and, of course, I always enjoy hearing the thought processes of folks as they go through it. I look forward to hearing more.

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KnightErrantJR
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Adeenya is an interesting character, and I like how, despite having two groups from really similar cultures, there still seems to be a lot of diversity, not just between the two groups, but even among the groups themselves.

Formians showing up is an interesting twist as well. Its cool to see something that is a threat that isn't a plotting evil so much as just an irresistible force that doesn't really think in terms of good and evil, and honestly isn't evil, just . . . is.
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EdGentry
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Posted - 14 Jun 2008 :  04:49:14  Show Profile  Visit EdGentry's Homepage Send EdGentry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The formians were a ton of fun to write. I'm a big believer in the notion that most "villians" aren't villians at all...they're just people doing what they think is right. It's the rest of us disagreeing with them that makes them "villians" or "evil".

Thanks for your comments.

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