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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 :  17:17:58  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage  Click to see Alaundo's MSN Messenger address Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
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This is a Book Club thread for The Orc King (Book 1 of Transitions), by R.A. Salvatore. Please discuss chapters 19 - 24 herein.

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Hmm, was Drizzt reading Ronald Reagan's speeches? I was kind of amused when he used the term "shining city on the hill" in Journal Entry #4.

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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Hmm, was Drizzt reading Ronald Reagan's speeches? I was kind of amused when he used the term "shining city on the hill" in Journal Entry #4.



Yes, I as well was surprised as heck to find out Drizzt ( Bob Salvatore) was a closeted conservative

Actually associating that in any wayto an orc kingdom could be offensive.


Should have been "a stinking pile of refuse on a knoll."

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To be honest, I think it had more to do with WotC's "points of light" concept than Ronald Regan.

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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

To be honest, I think it had more to do with WotC's "points of light" concept than Ronald Regan.



Reagan is famous for using the term "shining city on a hill" (to describe the U.S.), although of course he may not have coined the term.

The Orc King definitely has a lot to do with the points of light concept, I just found it humorous to read Drizzt musing about the orc kingdom and/or Mithral Hall and/or the Silver Marches becoming "the shining city on a hill".

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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Reagan is famous for using the term "shining city on a hill" (to describe the U.S.), although of course he may not have coined the term.

Reagan did coin the phrase, although it hearkens back to John Winthrop's sermon in 1630, "For we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill, the eyes of all people are upon us ...", which itself echoes the Sermon on the Mount: "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hid."
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Reagan is famous for using the term "shining city on a hill" (to describe the U.S.), although of course he may not have coined the term.

Reagan did coin the phrase, although it hearkens back to John Winthrop's sermon in 1630, "For we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill, the eyes of all people are upon us ...", which itself echoes the Sermon on the Mount: "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hid."



Wow, I didn't know that--thank you for the information.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Reagan is famous for using the term "shining city on a hill" (to describe the U.S.), although of course he may not have coined the term.

Reagan did coin the phrase, although it hearkens back to John Winthrop's sermon in 1630, "For we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill, the eyes of all people are upon us ...", which itself echoes the Sermon on the Mount: "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hid."



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