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Wenin Posted - 11 Jan 2019 : 23:12:19
I haven't really looked at the visitor stats, but I was surprised by the stats I'm seeing now.

Active Members: 6 | Guests: 208 || Total: 214

208 guests? Are those bots or do we really have that many lurkers?

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TBeholder Posted - 18 Jan 2019 : 05:02:12
Possibly count problem? How "no longer present" is identified and user dropped from the list?

That said, Wenin missed 3rd option: scraping for changed pages. Which is much like bots, but there are differences.
Example: use SiteDelta (addon checking pages, issuing alerts and highlighting differences) view of the active topic list in another tab. To avoid getting it thrown off by bogus difference between logged in and logged out lists, it connects as a guest. I'm logged in right now, but cookies are allowed only as 1st party for forum.candlekeep.com, so "moz-extension://343d43e5-b269-481c-b08b-f03cf619b676/show.htm?http%3A//forum.candlekeep.com/active.asp" still cannot access them, thus PHP perceives SiteDelta request as a guest (which will repeat only 1440 minutes later: samples simply overwrite each other, thus if taken more frequently than checked, the differences are lost).
I vaguely remember trying a less handy browser diff-scraper before, and SiteDelta offers data import/export from 2 others, and there was a Miranda IM plugin (get a notification from instant messenger, click opens browser - convenient and doesn't eat too much memory), so it's not very rare.
Rymac Posted - 14 Jan 2019 : 04:32:48
I haven't been active for quite awhile. Definitely have been a lurker. Life happens.

Lord Karsus Posted - 13 Jan 2019 : 23:33:19
-Jeeze, I don't remember the last time I updated the info in my profile but I know AOL/AIM was still a thing, so it's been a while...
Wooly Rupert Posted - 13 Jan 2019 : 02:19:24
Meh, I'm doubting that there is all that much data to mine, here, unless these bot-writers are looking for FR lore. Sure, some people have basic info in their profiles, but not all of that is current or even legit.
Ayrik Posted - 12 Jan 2019 : 18:44:08
A lot of bots don't politely announce or identify themselves - they're data mining for all sorts of benign or malign reasons - they'll just appear to be lurkers. I'm guessing over 200 of those 214 were bots.
Alaundo Posted - 12 Jan 2019 : 10:02:00
Well met

There are a number of bots. I have checked the detail of the logs in the past and there are many legitimate lurkers as the majority.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 12 Jan 2019 : 01:52:29
Lurkers, I would guess. I don't see much reason for bots to pay any attention to us.

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