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moonbeast Posted - 30 Jun 2018 : 21:16:17
What the hell is it? It looks like a new category of Waterdhavian coin. That is how it is portrayed in Dragon Heist, with at least one artwork of Jarlaxle (??) throwing the damn coins around like he was some Faerunian billionaire.

But even in the OFFICIAL Lords of Waterdeep boardgame (canon material), the coin tokens used in that game does not have anything shaped like this new coin. This coin has what seems to be an "hourglass" shape (kinda like a stylized black widow hourglass shape).

Here is a link to the image, last used on Jeremy Crawford's Twitter feeds, which has the D&D logo in the center:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgpK47RU0AAy3MG.png


Here is the actual coin "portrayed" in Dragon Heist cover art, where Billionaire Jarlaxle and other Waterdeep nobles are surrounded by the prolific coins:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfDGfxGUwAECCwQ.jpg
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Wooly Rupert Posted - 08 Jul 2018 : 05:00:04
Ah, good call. I didn't think to look at the illustrations of golds.
moonbeast Posted - 08 Jul 2018 : 03:34:09
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

It looks like a brass dragon... Don't some dragons have like tendrils hanging from their chins?



Yes. D&D gold dragons are sometimes portrayed this way…. I remember, since I collect all the published D&D illustrations (so that I could show my players the creatures they encounter).

https://www.aidedd.org/dnd/images/dragonGold.jpg


Also the Kara-Tur lung dragons are portrayed having long tendrils/whiskers.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 08 Jul 2018 : 03:26:29
It looks like a brass dragon... Don't some dragons have like tendrils hanging from their chins?
sleyvas Posted - 08 Jul 2018 : 01:00:13
quote:
Originally posted by moonbeast

#1. This is one very dead Halfling rogue/thief. Trying to steal the Xanathar's pet goldfish is beyond brave….

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NanqvM6aOxQ/maxresdefault.jpg


#2. Official D&D Merchandise baubles are coming….. that Waterdeep hour-glass shaped coin will be embossed with…. things other than a wolf. See sceeenshots below (from Twitter). Hell, I might want to buy one of these coins, but first I'd like to know a bit more background on this Waterdeepian currency.


Oops sorry. Waterdhavian.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeyU8rXVQAE-xhX.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeyU8rWUEAAQp8B.jpg





Ah, that's a much clearer picture. It confirms its a dragon... with tentacles like an illithid?
The Masked Mage Posted - 07 Jul 2018 : 21:26:23
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by ElfBane

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

It's a gold piece from Zhentil Keep known as a "glory" or "weeping wolf". Might be a hint as to where Jarlaxle's allegiances lie.

-- George Krashos


Hmmm, aren't the Zhentil Keep folks pretty much LE? Jarlaxle strikes me as NE on normal days, and approaching CN on days he wants to knock the Llolth crowd down a notch or five.



Coin is coin, especially for someone like Jarlaxle who is willing to make use of others.

And alignment isn't a factor for membership, and even less so for citizenship. I seem to recall a Harper that lived in Zhentil Keep, not long after the Time of Troubles.


Similarly, Allegiance and Alignment are not the same thing. Zhents range many alignments. Most drow are CE, but that's certainly not universal.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 07 Jul 2018 : 16:00:32
quote:
Originally posted by moonbeast


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeyU8rXVQAE-xhX.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeyU8rWUEAAQp8B.jpg





Okay, unless those coins are like $20 a piece, I'm going to be buying at least a couple of them -- those are cool.

I made a point of buying these because of their resemblance to Waterdhavian currency:

http://www.fantasycoin.com/Water-Helm_c_61.html
moonbeast Posted - 07 Jul 2018 : 13:18:40
#1. This is one very dead Halfling rogue/thief. Trying to steal the Xanathar's pet goldfish is beyond brave….

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NanqvM6aOxQ/maxresdefault.jpg


#2. Official D&D Merchandise baubles are coming….. that Waterdeep hour-glass shaped coin will be embossed with…. things other than a wolf. See sceeenshots below (from Twitter). Hell, I might want to buy one of these coins, but first I'd like to know a bit more background on this Waterdeepian currency.


Oops sorry. Waterdhavian.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeyU8rXVQAE-xhX.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeyU8rWUEAAQp8B.jpg

sno4wy Posted - 03 Jul 2018 : 19:23:54
According to the WotC videos about the Xanathar products, the goldfish is just a goldfish, and it's Xanathar's most prized possession. Perhaps this fact is one of the indicators of Xanathar not being entirely right in the head (do you even call that thing a head when it's also the beholder's body?), but the goldfish isn't even the same goldfish. Xanathar's followers have had to take great pains in replacing it when the previous one passes without Xanathar's knowledge, for they fear that if he ever finds out that his pet goldfish died, shit would hit the fan.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 03 Jul 2018 : 17:14:36
quote:
Originally posted by ElfBane

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

It's a gold piece from Zhentil Keep known as a "glory" or "weeping wolf". Might be a hint as to where Jarlaxle's allegiances lie.

-- George Krashos


Hmmm, aren't the Zhentil Keep folks pretty much LE? Jarlaxle strikes me as NE on normal days, and approaching CN on days he wants to knock the Llolth crowd down a notch or five.



Coin is coin, especially for someone like Jarlaxle who is willing to make use of others.

And alignment isn't a factor for membership, and even less so for citizenship. I seem to recall a Harper that lived in Zhentil Keep, not long after the Time of Troubles.
ElfBane Posted - 03 Jul 2018 : 15:49:52
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

It's a gold piece from Zhentil Keep known as a "glory" or "weeping wolf". Might be a hint as to where Jarlaxle's allegiances lie.

-- George Krashos


Hmmm, aren't the Zhentil Keep folks pretty much LE? Jarlaxle strikes me as NE on normal days, and approaching CN on days he wants to knock the Llolth crowd down a notch or five.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 03 Jul 2018 : 02:11:10
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

How many times in the last hundred years has our own currency changed what's pictured on it, yet kept the same basic shape. If you don't look at the image of the coin in Jarlaxle's hand in this, but instead look at the coin images at the bottom corner.... the right side coin on each COULD be a wolf sitting on its butt howling. The other side... no clue, its like some weird blur... it could maybe be a face.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dey77tkV4AYGEjq.jpg

Oh, and the goldfish is not a polymorphed young gold dragon, because Xanathar is staring at it with his central eye open.



Maybe the fishbowl is some exotic material that prevents magic (and beholder eyebeams) from passing thru it.
Kentinal Posted - 03 Jul 2018 : 01:51:56
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

Oh, and the goldfish is not a polymorphed young gold dragon, because Xanathar is staring at it with his central eye open.



Maybe lunch or just a pet? *wink*
sleyvas Posted - 02 Jul 2018 : 23:27:15
How many times in the last hundred years has our own currency changed what's pictured on it, yet kept the same basic shape. If you don't look at the image of the coin in Jarlaxle's hand in this, but instead look at the coin images at the bottom corner.... the right side coin on each COULD be a wolf sitting on its butt howling. The other side... no clue, its like some weird blur... it could maybe be a face.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dey77tkV4AYGEjq.jpg

Oh, and the goldfish is not a polymorphed young gold dragon, because Xanathar is staring at it with his central eye open.
Balmar Foghaven Posted - 02 Jul 2018 : 05:13:21
Except that they're not embossed with the weeping wolf on the cover image, but rather with a dragon.
moonbeast Posted - 01 Jul 2018 : 23:08:56
And maybe the goldfish (Xanathar's pet) is an unfortunate polymorphed Young Gold Dragon?
sleyvas Posted - 01 Jul 2018 : 14:43:18
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'm curious about the hooded Thanos wannabe.



I'm curious about the third butterfly.... I suspect its a shapechanged wizard
moonbeast Posted - 01 Jul 2018 : 14:19:25
George nailed it. I searched for Zhent currency, and indeed there is an official WotC illustration of the (gold) coin, the Zhent Weeping Wolf.

Here is the image link:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/6/61/Currency-5e.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161220171146

George Krashos Posted - 01 Jul 2018 : 05:25:43
It's a gold piece from Zhentil Keep known as a "glory" or "weeping wolf". Might be a hint as to where Jarlaxle's allegiances lie.

-- George Krashos
TomCosta Posted - 01 Jul 2018 : 00:07:28
The hooded Thanos wannabe is a clone of Manshoon.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 30 Jun 2018 : 23:18:49
I'm curious about the hooded Thanos wannabe.
moonbeast Posted - 30 Jun 2018 : 22:35:11
And here is yet ANOTHER promotional banner art where (on left) Jarlaxle is jingling this hourglass-shaped coin with one hand. It's like he's a very very bored villain. Or something.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dey77tkV4AYGEjq.jpg
Kentinal Posted - 30 Jun 2018 : 22:26:08
The one question might be is it Waterdhavian? Other cities and counties have their own coins.

If is gold, silver, or other real metal there is value recognized for them. It might be Drow, eyc.

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