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Mareka |
Posted - 01 Feb 2005 : 21:28:04 I know of three Bard Colleges currently in operation: New Ollam in Waterdeep, The House of the Harp (formerly the Fochlucan college) in Silverymoon, and Broadleaf College on the Moonshaes. Does anyone know of any others, either past or present? And the source they can be found in? |
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Lunever |
Posted - 13 Dec 2009 : 11:37:12 Thanks so far!
I checked the refered pages in Code of the Harpers, Volo's Guide to the North and also had a look into Lands of Intrigue, but they don't seem to yield much information, so I'm still searching for more.
Also, I'm still searching for 3E+ references. If anyone finds something there please let me know.
Conicindentally I had planned to place Cli in Neverwinter, unless I'd find some source saying otherwise. Funny that Eric Boyd already placed it there.
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The Sage |
Posted - 12 Dec 2009 : 23:48:16 quote: Originally posted by Lunever
Does anyone know whether there is any source aside from Elfsong about the barding colleges in Faerun?
Errr... If you read through Wooly's quoted Eric tidbit from Feb. '05 earlier in this scroll, you'll see several other sources listed.
quote: Did anyone find some 3.xE (or 4E) mentioning of the barding colleges in Faerun other than the instruments of the bards (Magic of Faerun et al) and the Fochlucan Lyrist prestige class in the Complete Adventurer?
I'll have to check my musical-Realmslore notebooks to be sure.
quote: PS: Does anyone know a source that details a MacFuirmidh location on the Moonshaes?
Aside from Elfsong, no. |
Lunever |
Posted - 12 Dec 2009 : 22:58:54 Hi everyone!
Bumping an old thread, nonetheless that's almost what I'm searching for. Some questions remain though.
Does anyone know whether there is any source aside from Elfsong about the barding colleges in Faerun?
Did anyone find some 3.xE (or 4E) mentioning of the barding colleges in Faerun other than the instruments of the bards (Magic of Faerun et al) and the Fochlucan Lyrist prestige class in the Complete Adventurer?
PS: Does anyone know a source that details a MacFuirmidh location on the Moonshaes? |
Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 02 Feb 2005 : 22:50:57 quote: Originally posted by Mareka
You guys rock. Thank you!
Not a problem! I, for one, enjoying sharing Realmslore. |
Mareka |
Posted - 02 Feb 2005 : 20:46:46 You guys rock. Thank you! |
Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 01 Feb 2005 : 23:37:34 To expand a bit on Dargoth's answer... We had a similar discussion a few months ago. Someone posted the bit below at that time; I believe it came from Eric Boyd, via the Realms-L mailing list (but don't quote me on that!).
quote: Here's some notes on the Bard Colleges of the North I cobbled together. Just an FYI. If I've missed something, please let me know. Comments welcome.
--Eric
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Bard colleges all slid into decline less than 300 years ago, perhaps circa the time of the Harpstar Wars (1182 - 1222 DR), when a senior half-elven Harper like Iriador Wintermist (Garnet) would have been distracted serving politicians like Khelben. Note that Iriador was a contempory of Finder Wyvernspur, and traveled with him as a Harper (i.e. sometime after 1022 DR) ere his exile a few years after 1058 DR. - Elfsong, p. 154, 231, 254 - Code of the Harpers, pp. 24, 27
Fochlucan (Silverymoon, now the site of Utrumm's Music Conservatory) - Elfsong, pp. 10, 111, 171
MacFuirmidh (Moonshaes, outside of Caer Callidyrr, surrounding wineries survive) - Elfsong, pp. 15, 111, 170 I've decided it fell in the Year of Falling Menhirs (1137 DR).
Doss (in Berdusk) - Elfsong, p. 175
Canaith (in Tethyr, near Zazzesspur) - Elfsong, p. 175 - Lands of Intrigue (unpublished, found in original draft) <<< The long-fallen ruins of the bards' college of Canaith lie strewn along the northern stretch of the Hillstrail about 70 miles south of Zazesspur. Its three buildings were abandoned ages ago, but their remains were further destroyed by fire during the Black Days, as its remains were used as hiding places for the Black Tyrant Count Romar Miklaas and his family and the local halflings used fire to drive them out. >>>
Cli (???) As far as I know, we currently have no idea where this college was located. I would propose that it was located in Neverwinter, specifically the site that is now the House of Knowledge, a temple of Oghma. However, it may well be that Elfsong implicitly locates the last college by dint of discussing where problems erupt thanks to Garnet's machinations. Volo's Guide to the North, pp. 133-134.
Anstruth (in Sundabar, only one building remains and now serves as a warehouse for musical instruments) - Elfsong, pp. 154, 176
Ollamn (in Waterdeep, now the site of the House of Song, although many believe it to have been located at the site of Halambar's Lute Shop) - Elfsong, p. 206, 215 I've decided it fell in the Year of the Scourge (1150 DR), during a time of plague in Waterdeep and the Sword Coast. Note that if Ollamn was located on the site of the House of Song (T19), that means that the site was not enclosed within the city's walls until 1064 DR. It also means that as of 1035 DR, there were not sufficient people out that far north to extend the wall even that far. (See City of Splendors: Campaign Guide, p. 30.) I'm guessing that the college grew up outside of Waterdeep amidst the farmland of the plateau and then was later incorporated into the city. Also the spelling seems to vary quite a bit, from "Olamn" (City of Splendors) to "Ollamn" (Elfsong) to "Olamh" (AD&D1 Player's Handbook).
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Dargoth |
Posted - 01 Feb 2005 : 23:24:40 quote: Originally posted by George Krashos
Eric Boyd put Cli in Neverwinter IIRC.
-- George Krashos
Oh! When? and where?
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George Krashos |
Posted - 01 Feb 2005 : 23:01:17 Eric Boyd put Cli in Neverwinter IIRC.
-- George Krashos
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Dargoth |
Posted - 01 Feb 2005 : 22:00:00 Fochlucan: Silverymoon Mac Fuirmidh: Moonshae Islands: Doss: Berdusk Canaith: Zazesspur in Tethyr Cli: Anstruth: Sundabar Ollamh: Halambars lute shop in Waterdeep Magna Alumnae:
According to the Old 1ed Players handbook there are 8 colleges for Bards, Elaine Cunningham gave away the locations of 6 of them in her novel Elf Song |
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