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Dargoth Posted - 23 Dec 2004 : 06:34:22
The Following Domains in the Complete Divine havent been assigned to any FR deities (BOVD and BOED where realmisifed in the PGTF) Which Deitied do you think should have these Domains

My Picks

Celerity: No idea
Competition: Lathander
Creation: Lathander
Domination: Bane (Does dovetail nicely if you take the Tyranny Domain)
Dream: No idea
Force: No idea
Inquisition: Maybe Bane?
Liberation: No idea
Madness: Cyric? (Although hes no longer Mad)
Mind: Mind Flayer Deity (Starts with I) and Deep Duerra
Mysticism: No idea
Oracle: Savras
Pact: No idea
Pestilince: Talona and Yurtus
Purification: Gods with Paladins
Summoner: No idea
Weather: Talos, Umberlee, Auril
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GRYPHON Posted - 04 Jul 2008 : 01:11:54
Force...possibly Bane?
Purple Dragon Knight Posted - 04 Jul 2008 : 00:50:16
Click the following for a complete list of domains:

http://candlekeep.com/downloads/frdomains.zip

Ardashir Posted - 02 Jul 2008 : 19:17:43
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Let's not get any further in real-world topics, please.



Okay, sorry for any problems.
Lord Karsus Posted - 02 Jul 2008 : 17:38:49
-All of the members of the Seldarine, in Elves of Faerûn, take into account the new domains added by WotC in various sourcebooks, and incorporate them.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 02 Jul 2008 : 17:35:41
Let's not get any further in real-world topics, please.
Ardashir Posted - 02 Jul 2008 : 16:09:00
quote:
Originally posted by Alparon

i think we must have a better nickname for
"Lawful Good"
than "crusader"

it may be insulting for us; you know the crusades were not that holy for muslims





They didn't have any problem with jihad; go an read about what happened in northern India during the 12th century AD for some more on that topic. {"In the space of a single day, one hundred thousand wretched Hindus were dispatched to grovel on the brazen floor of Hell...")
Jindael Posted - 19 May 2005 : 18:55:10
My bad.

Orcus does grant spells in the realms, according to Faiths and Pantheons. However, I don’t feel that he qualifies for any of the domains from the Complete Divine.
Jindael Posted - 15 May 2005 : 09:56:13
I don't think worship of Orcus actually grants spells right now. Or, if it did, it would be one of the other deities granting them via a deal with Orcus...which I'm not so sure is going to happen.
Adarin Posted - 15 May 2005 : 09:37:01
quote:
originally posted by TymoraChosen Uh, excuse me, so which classification is the Witch King god, Orcus placed under?


Based on waht I think of TymoraChosen query, I think he is asking which domain is to be placed under this god.
Jamallo Kreen Posted - 15 May 2005 : 09:25:26
quote:
Originally posted by TymoraChosen

Uh, excuse me, so which classification is the Witch King god, Orcus placed under?


Please clarify your query. Are you asking what domains we think should be assigned to Orcus, or whether or not we think that he qualifies as Faerûnian gods? There is a debate as to whether he counts as a deity anywhere.
The Sage Posted - 15 May 2005 : 09:22:11
Orcus isn't a god. He's the Demon Prince of Undeath. Very powerful most certainly, but not a deity as such. The fact that cults dedicated to him often identify the Demon Prince through his "portfolio", doesn't help matters, and as such, some mortal groups on many worlds consider Orcus "a god". But technically, he isn't.
TymoraChosen Posted - 15 May 2005 : 09:04:32
Uh, excuse me, so which classification is the Witch King god, Orcus placed under?
Jindael Posted - 09 May 2005 : 03:18:12
What I would think would work:


Celerity is mostly a combat/movement domain that benefits Dexterity fighters and thieves, as well as gods that represent traveling.

Celerity: Shaundakul, Set, Eilistraee, Sharindlar, Erevan Ilesere, Baravar Cloakshadow, Arvoreen, Shargaas.



Community: The CD gives the Community Domain to the leaders of all the non-human pantheons, except, oddly, for Moradin. I think they might have dropped the ball on this one, considering that they “expanded” the gods for the core game in the “Races Of…”
line. However, since this is the FR gods, I’ll adjust the list. The domain itself is a nice mix of “diplomatic” spells that serve adventurers as well as community priests.

Community: Ilnater, Hathor, Berronar Truesilver, Angharradh, Garl Glittergold, Yondalla.



Competition is a rather fierce domain, and it serves a number of gods rather well. It’s spells lend itself to more martial deities, but I’m keeping a limit on all of them.

Competition: Lathander, Red Knight, Anhur, Vhaeraun, Haela Brightaxe, Solonor Thelandira, Flandal Steelskin, Ilneval.



Creation is…a somewhat lackluster domain. It’s given to clerics of deities who take pride in what they make with their hands. To me, I would think that these clerics would actually make things with their hands to please their deity, rather than just “poofing” it. Personally, I’d scrap the entire domain. However, if you want a full list (or just really want a + to conjuration spells) then here are my ideas. Following the examples put forth in the CD:

Creation: Gond, Waukeen, Geb, Laduguer, Moradin, Hanali Celanil, Flandal Steelskin, Cyrrollalee.



Domination, like cold, is pretty self explanatory. And the benefit is nice.

Domination: Bane, Gargauth, Set, Kiaransalee, Shevarash, Gruumsh


Dream is an interesting concept, but probably won’t fit into a lot of places.

Dream: Selune, Shar, Sehanine Moonbow



Force, like dream, is a very niche specific domain and hard to place. However, I’ll give it a go.

Force: Mystra, Tempus, Clangeddin Silverbeard,



Glory is a rather potent domain for combating undead...and little else. Why it’s the Glory domain, I have no clue. It’s granted power and almost its entire list of domain spells are centered on destroying undead. With this in mind:

Glory: Lathander, Kelemvor, Nephthys.



Inquisition fits nicely into a number of deities profiles.

Inquisition: Bane, Helm, Loviatar, Tyr, Lolth, Shevarash, Arvoreen,



Liberation is a great domain for chaotic deities, although it only fits in a few locations.

Liberation: Lliira, Eilistraee, Erevan Ilesere.



Madness is going to cause some odd choices from me, but, hey, that’s why it’s in a forum, so we can discuss it.

Madness: Beshaba, Garagos, Sharess, Talona, Ghaunadaur, Urdlen.



Mind: A rather useful Domain for thinkers. The CD also gives it to Olidammara, presumably for the Granted Power…so, following that lead:

Mind: Azuth, Mask, Thoth, Abbathor, Deep Duerra, Corellon Larethian, Baervan Wildwanderer, Brandobaris.



Mysticism is just such a great domain that it’s hard not giving it to everyone. The CD says that “Neutral, Lawful Neutral and Chaotic Neutral deities would never have this domain.” I can only guess that they are going for a more “tribal” feel to the Mysticism domain. So, with that in mind, I present two options:

Mysticism(1): Any deity that is worshipped outside the normal clergy structure, such as a group of nomads in the high forest who worship Mystra, may have access to the Mysticism domain.

Mysticism(2): Akadi, Gwaeron Windstrom, Grumbar, Istishia, Kossuth, Shiallia, Silvanus, Ubtao, Sehanine Moonbow, Baravar Cloakshadow, Urogalan, Bahgtru



Oracle is another niche domain, but a nice one.

Oracle: Savras, Thoth, Dugmaren Brightmantle, Labales Enoreth



Pact: Not as niche as it seems.

Pact: Bane, Helm, Kelemvor, Nobanion, Siamorphe, Torm, Tyr, Osiris, Cyrrollalee.



Pestilence fits perfectly in a few cases as Dargoth pointed out.

Pestilence: Talona, Yurtus



Purification fits in a few places.

Purification: Ilmater, Istishia, Aerdrie Faenya, Sheela Peryroyl.



Summoner. Er…? The “I want to summon stuff” domain. Fits any deity that has “Animal”, “Spider” or “Scalykind” as a portfolio

Summoner: Chauntea, Finder Wyvernspur, Gwaeron Windstrom, Lurue, Malar, Mielikki, Nobanion, Shiallia, Silvanus, Tiamat, Ulutiu, Sebek, Set, Lolth, Selvetarm, Thard Harr, Aerdrie Faenya, Fenmarel Mestarine, Baervan Wildwanderer,



Weather is pretty obvious.

Weather: Talos, Umberlee, Auril, Anhur, Isis, Aerdrie Faenya, Cyrrollalee,

The Sage Posted - 09 May 2005 : 01:26:25
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by khorne

Is there a god of revenge?



Yup: Hoar the Doombringer.

Khorne, be sure to keep your eyes out for the Candlekeep Compendium #2. There might be something inside that you will find interesting... .
SiriusBlack Posted - 08 May 2005 : 23:25:16
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by khorne

Is there a god of revenge?



Yup: Hoar the Doombringer.



If anyone is interested in seeing a priest of Hoar in action, check out Lisa Smedman's Venom's Taste.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 08 May 2005 : 18:17:09
quote:
Originally posted by khorne

Is there a god of revenge?



Yup: Hoar the Doombringer.
khorne Posted - 08 May 2005 : 17:38:20
Is there a god of revenge?
Jamallo Kreen Posted - 08 May 2005 : 13:37:27
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

The Following Domains in the Complete Divine havent been assigned to any FR deities (BOVD and BOED where realmisifed in the PGTF) Which Deitied do you think should have these Domains

My Picks

Celerity: No idea
Competition: Lathander
Creation: Lathander
Domination: Bane (Does dovetail nicely if you take the Tyranny Domain)
Dream: No idea
Force: No idea
Inquisition: Maybe Bane?
Liberation: No idea
Madness: Cyric? (Although hes no longer Mad)
Mind: Mind Flayer Deity (Starts with I) and Deep Duerra
Mysticism: No idea
Oracle: Savras
Pact: No idea
Pestilince: Talona and Yurtus
Purification: Gods with Paladins
Summoner: No idea
Weather: Talos, Umberlee, Auril




Amaunator (now either dead or living under an assumed name) was the god of bureacrats and contracts, so he is a natural for that. Since "Inquisition" has very bad connotations, I would assign it to Gargauth. Gargauth might fancy the ideas of Pact, too, although it his nature to promote many agreements and then violate any of them when it is most advantageous to do so.

A truly fair judge for Inquisition would be Hoar, who punishes wrongdoers, but is more merciful than Faerun's Tyr or Talos; as it says, his dogma teaches his clerics to follow the spirit of the law, not the letter, although someone with a jaundiced view of what lawmakers intended may decide that punishing someone who hasn't broken the letter of the law but who has violated its spirit, is fair game for some poetic comeuppance., something Tyr would not tolerate.

Gargauth is a very fickle god for contracts, to be sure, but fickleness is common among deities. (Witness Sune & Adon, Cyric's generally sociopathic behavior toward his followers, Bhaal's dogma that he may be bought off from fulfilling his godly function, which included Death, and Tymora's distribution of good luck and bad luck.)

Another good choice for Pact (which he would undoubtedly politely decline) would be Jergal, who keeps the books for Lord of the Dead.

Force seems to be just a subset of Magic, so it fall entirely within Mstra's purview.

I disagree on your choice for Creation. That should belong to Chauntea, I think.

Celerity ought to be a domain of both Shaundakul, The Rider on the Winds, and Valkur, The Mighty Captain of the Waves.
SiriusBlack Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 15:33:30
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I've been chasing this tome down myself, ever since Kuje first mentioned it to me. What is it's exact name though? Is it published by Bastion Press? In what year?



Faeries: D20 System
by Bryon Wischstadt (Designer), Steven Schend (Editor)
Paperback: 128 pages
Publisher: Bastion Press (April, 2003)
ISBN: 1592630014
List Price is $27.95
The Sage Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 08:39:42
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I know that I, for one, don't own a single 3rd party sourcebook. There is one I'm trying to obtain, more for the material than for game use. Other than that one, I've no intention of buying any 3rd party stuff.



What is this select one?



Faeries

Admittedly, it could be used for the Realms, but I'm not getting it for that purpose.

I've been chasing this tome down myself, ever since Kuje first mentioned it to me. What is it's exact name though? Is it published by Bastion Press? In what year?
SiriusBlack Posted - 15 Jan 2005 : 20:34:19
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Faeries

Admittedly, it could be used for the Realms, but I'm not getting it for that purpose.



Yes, I recall that being mentioned by some other scribes. Good company that produced this work based on my dealings with them.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 15 Jan 2005 : 19:40:46
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I know that I, for one, don't own a single 3rd party sourcebook. There is one I'm trying to obtain, more for the material than for game use. Other than that one, I've no intention of buying any 3rd party stuff.



What is this select one?



Faeries

Admittedly, it could be used for the Realms, but I'm not getting it for that purpose.
SiriusBlack Posted - 15 Jan 2005 : 17:17:44
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I know that I, for one, don't own a single 3rd party sourcebook. There is one I'm trying to obtain, more for the material than for game use. Other than that one, I've no intention of buying any 3rd party stuff.



What is this select one?
warlockco Posted - 15 Jan 2005 : 16:00:02
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Darth KTrava

quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

quote:
Originally posted by Snow

And that's my current project. Every single dang cleric domain in 3.0 and 3.5 is currently being placed into a database by me.
Are you limiting this to just WotC published sourceooks?




It'd probably be easier. There's already quite a few domains out there that are just published by WOTC alone. And not all DMs would include 3rd party sourcebooks as most probably don't even own them.




I know that I, for one, don't own a single 3rd party sourcebook. There is one I'm trying to obtain, more for the material than for game use. Other than that one, I've no intention of buying any 3rd party stuff.



From my experiences with 3rd party material, the majority of their domains are really really stupid (not to say WotC hasn't done so either) but the 3rd party stuff is even worse, or so completely unbalanced it is crazy.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 15 Jan 2005 : 13:49:49
quote:
Originally posted by Darth KTrava

quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

quote:
Originally posted by Snow

And that's my current project. Every single dang cleric domain in 3.0 and 3.5 is currently being placed into a database by me.
Are you limiting this to just WotC published sourceooks?




It'd probably be easier. There's already quite a few domains out there that are just published by WOTC alone. And not all DMs would include 3rd party sourcebooks as most probably don't even own them.




I know that I, for one, don't own a single 3rd party sourcebook. There is one I'm trying to obtain, more for the material than for game use. Other than that one, I've no intention of buying any 3rd party stuff.
warlockco Posted - 15 Jan 2005 : 10:03:33
quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco
Liberation would be a good fit for Sharess.


I don't see that as much. Why would you say that?



Sharess opposes Set, Shar and Loviatar. She almost became a slave to the darker side of pleasure and subsumed by Shar.
As a goddess of cat, personal freedom is a big item.

Also this text from the Dancer of Sharess PrC lends strength to Sharess having this domain.

quote:
Originally posted by Julia Martin & Eric Haddock in Dragon Magazine
Dancers of Sharess seek pleasure at every opportunity and live life as one endless revel. They value being footloose and fancy free and resist restrictions of any kind—cultural, emotional, mental, or physical—placed on them by others. They love to dance, and most are accomplished singers and play one or more musical instruments. Dancers find evil ugly and repugnant, and they hate undead, viewing them as a violation of the dead’s peaceful rest and an offense against the vibrancy of the positive energy of life.

But Dancers of Sharess also draw from an eclectic set of mandates and traditions passed down through the evolution of their goddess and her church. Their hatred of Set comes from their goddess’s ancient history as Bast, of Vhaeraun from her merger with Zandilar, and of Shar from her captivity by that deity in her recent past as Sharess. Their affiliation with felines also grows from their goddess’s history as Bast, who subsumed Felidae, and their accomplishments in dance from Zandilar the Dancer. Bast also lends them a tradition of fighting skills that few realize exists behind the dancer’s pleasure-sodden existence.

Clerics most often become Dancers of Sharess, with Rangers being less common. Sharess’s philosophy so chafes under restriction that is cannot accommodate the lawful nature of Paladins and Monks.


Lady Kazandra Posted - 15 Jan 2005 : 07:36:27
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

Hmm . . . good idea. Ought to do some more FRing, and here's a good place to start.

Offhand, though, Liberation should go to Lliira.

Seems like a good choice.

With a little fudging, I suppose Liberation could also relate to some worshippers of Sune as well. Especially for worshippers who may have been forced into lives of servitude... and have been unable to express themselves fully because of this fact.




Liberation would be a good fit for Sharess.


I don't see that as much. Why would you say that?
Darth KTrava Posted - 14 Jan 2005 : 18:47:13
quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

quote:
Originally posted by Snow

And that's my current project. Every single dang cleric domain in 3.0 and 3.5 is currently being placed into a database by me.
Are you limiting this to just WotC published sourceooks?




It'd probably be easier. There's already quite a few domains out there that are just published by WOTC alone. And not all DMs would include 3rd party sourcebooks as most probably don't even own them.
warlockco Posted - 07 Jan 2005 : 13:37:23
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

Hmm . . . good idea. Ought to do some more FRing, and here's a good place to start.

Offhand, though, Liberation should go to Lliira.

Seems like a good choice.

With a little fudging, I suppose Liberation could also relate to some worshippers of Sune as well. Especially for worshippers who may have been forced into lives of servitude... and have been unable to express themselves fully because of this fact.




Liberation would be a good fit for Sharess.
Lady Kazandra Posted - 07 Jan 2005 : 05:27:40
quote:
Originally posted by Snow

And that's my current project. Every single dang cleric domain in 3.0 and 3.5 is currently being placed into a database by me.
Are you limiting this to just WotC published sourceooks?

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