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Pitiless_One Posted - 24 Oct 2020 : 18:51:44
Referencing the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide (p.18), the solstices and equinoxes drifted or began to drift beginning in 1487 DR, the same year the Sundering ended, with no explanation.

Is this a course correction for something I missed from the spellplagues? If not, is it possible that Toril and Abier swapped cosmos?
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cpthero2 Posted - 25 Oct 2020 : 19:21:03
Great Reader sleyvas,

Dang it! I was just trying to throw WotC a bone here. ;) haha

In reality Acolyte Pitiless_One, the Great Reader is correct, as is Master Rupert. For a variety of reasons which could be sheer drunkenness, rage, a lack of sacrifices, or anything else one might conjure up in their mind as a viable excuse... randomness just appears to be the reason for so many interesting things these days from WotC (Why Our Things Change).

Best regards,




Lord Karsus Posted - 25 Oct 2020 : 15:16:01
-An interesting little throwaway tidbit there, but I wonder why.
see Posted - 25 Oct 2020 : 07:23:35
I think what happened is purely that one of the SCAG authors decided to "fix" that Greengrass has always been "the official beginning of spring" (1e FRCS, Cyclopedia p.6; 2e FRCS, A Grand Tour of the Realms, p.21; 3e FRCS p.77, and 4e Player's Guide to Faerun p.155) but not the spring equinox (which is the real-world astronomical convention for the start of spring), and Midsummer in the Realms happened astronomically well after what the "real world" calls "Midsummer".

If you use the original Realms seasons, then Midwinter approximates Imbolc/Candelmas/Groundhog Day, Greengrass approximates May Day/Walpurgis Night/Beltane/Floralia, Midsummer approximates Lammas/Lughnasadh, Higharvestide approximates the autumnal equinox, and the Feast of the Moon is around US Thanksgiving or the start of Advent.

If you use the SCAG shifted seasons, then in terms of day length/temperature Midwinter is the winter solstice, Greengrass is the vernal equinox, Midsummer is the summer solstice, Higharvestide is roughly US Labor Day, and The Feast of the Moon season-wise approximates Halloween. Which, of course, corresponds a lot more closely to what a random American would think of as the "right" days for holidays.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 25 Oct 2020 : 03:59:11
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Originally posted by Pitiless_One

Referencing the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide (p.18), the solstices and equinoxes drifted or began to drift beginning in 1487 DR, the same year the Sundering ended, with no explanation.





Since the 3E FRCS came out there's been a lot of things that changed with no explanation.

I think this is another case of a designer deciding something was cool and just dropping it in, without any consideration given for how to make it work or what impact it would have. The Rule of Cool is what rules the setting now.
sleyvas Posted - 25 Oct 2020 : 01:34:00
Um, significant portions of land miraculously reappeared.... I don't think we have to look for heavenly objects to explain any kind of planetary slight shifts, etc...
cpthero2 Posted - 24 Oct 2020 : 22:43:17
Great Reader Kentinel,

Is it possible that some heavenly object with a significant enough of a gravitational impact had some impact at that time? I am not astute on the Spellplague stuff as I don't use it at all.

Best regards,



Kentinal Posted - 24 Oct 2020 : 21:07:06
A Drift of solstices and equinoxes can only occur with planet tilt or obit being effected. Clearly in the Realms the normal rules of science do not always work, however longest/shortest sunlight day and equal sunlight of a day of the year depend on tilt of planet in real world.

There might be some mega magic involved because the event that results in the reported observation as a result of the Sundering.

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