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The Sage Posted - 31 Dec 2016 : 14:06:22
Well met

This being a continued collection of scrolls of any questions the Scribes and visitors of Candlekeep wish to put to a master who needs no introduction, namely - Ed Greenwood, creator of the Forgotten Realms.

Ed's works include MANY FR sourcebooks and numerous novels, such as Cormyr: A Novel, Spellfire, Silverfall, The Shadows of the Avatar Trilogy and The Elminster Series, to name but a few.

Present your questions herein and check back to see what news may also come forth from the quill of this author.

For previous entries of the many, many writings of lore by Ed, please see the 2016 entries in this collection of scrolls, the 2015 entries here, the 2014 entries here, the 2013 entries here, the 2012 entries here, the 2011 entries here, the 2010 entries here, the 2009 entries here the 2008 entries here, the 2007 entries here, the 2006 entries here, the 2005 entries here, and the 2004 entries here. 'ware, these run into over 80 pages, ye may be reading for some time. For a concise read of Ed's replies, visit the "So Saith Ed" page on the Candlekeep site.
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Wooly Rupert Posted - 18 Sep 2017 : 18:07:45
quote:
Originally posted by AJA

I see you've never been to Anything Flows, the heated saltwater baths down in Dock Ward staffed entirely by (very non-judgemental) awakened octopi. It's like Japanese hentai, only with far less teeth and bad hairdos.



It's always Tako Tuesday, there!
AJA Posted - 18 Sep 2017 : 16:29:29
I see you've never been to Anything Flows, the heated saltwater baths down in Dock Ward staffed entirely by (very non-judgemental) awakened octopi. It's like Japanese hentai, only with far less teeth and bad hairdos.
sleyvas Posted - 18 Sep 2017 : 13:52:56
Make sure to tell Ilyth to stay away from your posterior unless you're into that... just saying.
AJA Posted - 18 Sep 2017 : 00:45:38
Dearest Edifying Ed,

Having recently arrived in Waterdeep, I find myself enthusiastically recommended to the delicate charms of Dancing Darella of Lackpurse Lane, and to Sharleene of Slop Street. Enticing as they sound my tastes happen to run more to the cephalopodan, and so I ask for your assistance in providing more information on one Ilyth of the Gentle Tentacles who, I am told, I most definitely "should not miss the embraces of." What say you, my fancy man?


(For anyone who doesn't know what I'm on about, check Volo's seventh annotation on the 1996 Forgotten Realms Conspectus where he namedrops these, um....ladies?)
DenverJack Posted - 17 Sep 2017 : 00:54:34
I was referring to the Anthony Huso version of The Night Wolf Inn - thanks for the clarification there Wooly
Wooly Rupert Posted - 16 Sep 2017 : 21:42:29
quote:
Originally posted by DenverJack

Ed and THO - are you familiar with The Night Wolf Inn? If so, any ideas on where in the Realms it might fit in?

Any ideas from anyone else?

Thanks



There's a place in Arabel by that name... Or are you referring to this Night Wolf Inn?
DenverJack Posted - 16 Sep 2017 : 20:00:35
Ed and THO - are you familiar with The Night Wolf Inn? If so, any ideas on where in the Realms it might fit in?

Any ideas from anyone else?

Thanks
Wooly Rupert Posted - 14 Sep 2017 : 03:05:11
quote:
Originally posted by uaintjak

Hello all! I have a character who is a half-elven cavalier of Waterdeep, a squire of Caladorn Cassalanter. Which noble families of Waterdeep are most likely to produce such a character, given that he's half-elven? Also, are there any famous (or at least reputable) half-elven cavaliers that this character might idolize and aspire to imitate? Thanks for any replies and insight.



Half-elves are not common among Waterdhavian nobility; the noble families have a thing about keeping noble blood in human veins.

Me, if I wanted a noble-born Waterdhavian half-elf, I'd either have the half-elf be illegitimate (and likely not even officially acknowledged), or the half-elf would be something like the third son, by a second wife, or would be the offspring of a second or third son -- pretty much, born in such a way to not be anywhere near the line of succession.

As for notable half-elves to emulate, I'd say (depending on the era you're using) that the half-elven sons of Alustriel are a very good choice. From friend Steven Schend:

quote:
Hail and well met. With some insistence on Ed's part (and Eric Boyd's and a few other who shall remain nameless), I'm ending my sabbatical and returning to the Realms as a fan and fellow Waterdhavian by proxy.

As for Ed's comment, I did a dig through the hard drive to find the info I had set aside long ago (circa 1996-1997ish, during the design of Cloak & Dagger). Even so, no reason to leave it buried.

Bear in mind though, folks, that none of this lore is at all official, since I'm no longer affiliated with Wizards save by old friendships and some very occasional work. With that in mind, here's what my old brain came up with for Alustriel's Sons aka the Tall Ones.
Steven Schend

Who unofficially adopted Silverymoon as a pet project for a few years before leaving WotC in 2000

Actually, I found it in the back of 7 Sisters, under Alustriel's bit in the campaign use chapter. They allegedly all use the surname Aerasume, which translates to Silverymoon, though I'm going to amend that and scatter their surnames among our three options now (though all with the same father). Their names are (alphabetically) Andelver, Boesild, Dolthauvin, Elinthalar, Ghaelryss, Inthylyn, Lilinthar, Methrammar, Naerond, Raerilarr, Tarthilmor, and Uoundeld. They seem to have connections to the Harpers (since they can contact Cylyria Dragonbreast and Sharanralee of Everlund as well as Mom....).

Tarthilmor Aerasume (CG hem F11/W12) is set as one of the two Captains of the Spellguard under Jorus Azuremantle. DRAGON ANNUAL #1, p60

Methrammar Aerasume, the Shining Guard (LG hem F14/W12) and commander of Luruar's armies. THE NORTH, Cities p55

At this point, here's my suggestions for birthdates and whatnot on these guys (of whom there are now 17, but 5 of them are either unknown to the Silverymoon folks but famous within the Moonwood and their father's people or are dead:

Alustriel Silverhand + Taerntym Tanagathor/"Taern Moonweather" (sorta married, at least as elves go...)

Dalbrant Tanagathor (1240 - 1313?) Disappeared while on quest for Taerntym

Hardorbryn Tanagathor (1242 - 1343) Twin of Alondel; died in battle with the Moonlight Men

Alondel Tanagathor (1242 - 1343) Twin of Hardorbryn; died in battle with the Moonlight Men

Boesild Aerasume (1244 - ?) Oldest known/acknowledged surviving son of Alustriel; former apprentice of Khelben the Elder just after he left Waterdeep in 1256; now part of the Teukiira/Moonstars.

Elnriyr Moonweather (1250 - 1347) Priest of Sehanine; died in the fire that destroys Everdusk Hall

Baerndar Tanagathor (1266 - ?)

Uoundeld of Silverymoon (1269 - ?) Teacher at the Lady's College (Tactical & Strategic Spellcasting)

Dolthauvin Aerasume (1295 - ?) Wanderer in the Moonwood & Coldwood

Elinthalar Tanagathor (1299 - ?) Twin of Andelver; wanderer of Lurkwood

Andelver Tressymfriend (1299 - ?) Twin of Elinthalar; wanderer of Lurkwood

Methrammar Aerasume (1304 - ?) The Shining Guard & most recognized son of Alustriel

Inthylyn of Silverymoon (1314 - ?) ?????????????????

Lilinthar Moonweather (1337 - ?) Triplet brother of Naerond & Tarthilmor; huntmaster of Moonweather clan in Moonwood?

Naerond Aerasume (1337 - ?) Triplet brother of Lilinthar & Tarthilmor; crusader/mage for Mystra?

Tarthilmor Aerasume (1337 - ?) Triplet brother of Naerond & Lilinthar; Spell Captain of the Spellguard in Silverymoon

Raerilarr Aerasume (1340 - ?) Smallest of Tall Ones at 6'7" and nicknamed "Tiny" by brothers; most hot-tempered of brothers, rabid drow hunter (and prejudiced vs. dwarves for some reason)

Ghaelryss the Bold (1345 - ?) Uses no surname, raised in Silverymoon, living in Everlund?

I see the younger ones bonding more like brothers, while the older ones (especially those among the elves) are almost more like uncles or foster fathers to the others, as Alustriel got too busy to help raise the children in the 1270s and 1340s (see Silverymoon timeline). How their levels and abilities differ, and how their deific backgrounds (as grandchildren of Mystra) might be reflected along with their half-elven blood is yet unknown--I see a few with silver hair, all of them with longer lifespans than average half-elves, and enhanced abilities almost equal to full elves (due to ties to Weave, including reverie rather than sleep).

How's that? With this being the case, I've adopted Boesild as my regional contact for Khelben, and we can easily ensconce him in the Vault of the Sages or the Lady's College in Silverymoon. That work for you?
SES
uaintjak Posted - 14 Sep 2017 : 01:44:19
Hello all! I have a character who is a half-elven cavalier of Waterdeep, a squire of Caladorn Cassalanter. Which noble families of Waterdeep are most likely to produce such a character, given that he's half-elven? Also, are there any famous (or at least reputable) half-elven cavaliers that this character might idolize and aspire to imitate? Thanks for any replies and insight.
TBeholder Posted - 12 Sep 2017 : 17:34:39
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

P.S. And I believe Ed stands with Wooly re. chromatic magics, including color spray and prismatic and all "dazzling hues" magic.

I figured this probably includes prismatic, but that's Ed, he always invents more spells.
quote:
Originally posted by Barastir

Back in 2013 I made the following question:

Moondark Mountains

The only answer was that "there are still Moondarks around".
NDA "but not for all that long" in August 2013 could mean "The Moondark Mystery" FtR article, indeed.
Barastir Posted - 11 Sep 2017 : 11:30:03
Back in 2013 I made the following question:

In the Volo's Guide to the North the legend of the Moondark Mountains, an ancient elven cluster of magic-rich citadels, whose inhabitants apparently left the world through Spelljamming. Have any newer lore been published that confirms those tales, and that says of which elven realms those citadels were part? And I've also noted that the name of the temple of Solonor the Archer God in Evereska is "Moondark Hill". Is there any connections between those places?

At the time, Ed said I hit an NDA which apparently would be revealed soon. Was it, after all?
Baldorar Posted - 07 Sep 2017 : 09:42:16
Thanks a lot THO!

I really appreciate that you guys are taking the time to answer all these questions and I thank you again for taking the time to response yourself, knowing that Ed is overwhelmed lately.

Always wanted a more Greenwoodian approach to the Realms. His creativity and enthusiasm is just contagious! Not to say that I don't like other authors who have worked on the Realms, Paul (Jennell) Jacquays is a good example of an author I appreciate a lot (also for the Judges Guild stuff).

I am more leaning to the 'old-school' kind of playing but there's plenty of stuff ruleswise that I tend to ignore. I play everthing OD&D-AD&D up to 2nd Ed. And yep, I have the same point of view in respect to having a Tarrasque in a dungeon and a Dragon in the next room and that kind of illogical stuff (except if there is a GOOD reason for it).

I don't use hexes either, and I find the idea of including the acetate overlays really clever and useful. Nevertheless, I don't know how to approach exploring a map and finding secondary encounters/dungeons without a hex map. It can be a bit too random and chaotic IMHO. Imagine there's a forest with a cave and a dungeon in it, if your players want to go into the forest, how do you determine they find any of the two or none at all? This is also a question for the other scribes, btw :-)

Another thing that came to mind is that I always wanted to see how he keys dungeons. If he goes full description, puts some notes or just makes up everything on the go. I purchased 'Ed Greenwood presents Elminster's Forgotten Realms' last week, but it still needs some time to arrive to Spain. The thing is that rumor has it it brings some samples of his typewritting and hand-drawn maps in it. I can't wait to hold that book in my hands!

Zeromaru X Posted - 06 Sep 2017 : 08:43:07
Thanks. I was thinking of getting the OGB, but was unsure if was the 1e book or the 2e book. Now, I will get the 1e book.

EDIT:

Dear THO, can you relay yet another question for Ed?

Are Halagothra's (the healer from Tarmalune) powers somehow related to Amaunator? (Glindarra, her granddaughter, seems to be somehow related with Amaunator...)

Thanks in advance.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 06 Sep 2017 : 04:59:31
quote:
Originally posted by Zeromaru X

The Old Grey Box is the 1st edition campaign setting, right?



Indeed. It's sometimes shortened to "OGB".

It helps to use those terms, because the 1E Forgotten Realms setting boxed set was the Forgotten Realms Campaign Set, the 2E setting boxed set was the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, and the 3E hardcover book that covered the setting was also called the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting.

For some reason, TSR and WotC have liked reusing names. That's why we also have multiple Draconomicons and Drow of the Underdark books.
sleyvas Posted - 06 Sep 2017 : 01:32:53
>>And NO HEXES. That’s why the Old Grey Box has acetate overlays for the hexes, instead of maps “spoiled” by having >>hexes drawn on them and influencing the way rivers run, mountains loom, etc.

Let me applaud him for this. It was the first time I had seen it, and I appreciated it at the time, but not as much as I have learned to as I grow older. I was actually surprised that later campaign settings didn't include similar acetate pages.
Zeromaru X Posted - 05 Sep 2017 : 22:31:13
The Old Grey Box is the 1st edition campaign setting, right?
The Hooded One Posted - 05 Sep 2017 : 20:14:53
Hello again, all.
I can answer Baldorar’s queries off the top of my head, as it happens, without contacting Ed, so here it goes….
The Volo’s Guides (aside from the new 5e Volo’s Monsters, much of which is astonishingly close to Ed’s original “monster cultures”) were expanded here and there for TSR, but were drawn largely from Ed's original home campaign (and the one-DM-one-player mini-campaign he ran, for “being a wizard,” that provided the “toolbox” of spells to build spells from, for Volo’s Guide To All Things Magical). They are all eminently usable for pre-Time of Troubles campaigns.
The “Old Grey Box” is very close to Ed’s original, aside from editing out some of the quietly-same-gender couples and the like (and a LOT of stuff that wouldn’t fit), and of FR1 through FR6:
FR1 is pure Ed, just lots left out because there’s only so much cramming stuff in one can do
FR2 is Doug’s Celtic “Albion” campaign put in place of Ed’s Earthsea/Hebrides-like original Moonshaes
FR3 is Scott Hering taking Ed’s original maps and names (BTW, a printing error screwed up said maps) and making the realms covered in that book far more “Arabian Nights” than they ever were in Ed’s originals (Ed’s Realms DON’T have close real-world analogues, despite what some TSR designers did with his original lore, and some gamers have assumed since, but if you had to describe Ed’s original lands covered in this tome, they’re Moorish to medieval/Byzantine Mediterranean Italian city-states)
FR4 is almost pure Ed (literally a dump of Ed’s Realms DM’s Guide magic stuff, with a handful of “simple, standard” magic items and a table added at the end by Steve Perrin).
FR5 is a dump of Ed’s original Sword Coast North Realmslore, with Paul (now Jennell) Jaquays adding the Uthgardt barbarians (from Griffon Mountain) to replace Ed’s more Conan-like barbarian tribes, the Raydoc/Egg of the Phoenix lore (from Frank Mentzer’s modules) and the framing story (with Amelior Amanitas) that runs throughout.
and:
FR6 is Steve Perrin extrapolating from Ed’s 4 pages or so of notes (i.e. many of the identities of the Thayans are Steve’s, and most of the actual spells, but the social structure (slaves, tharchs, zulkirs), the Red Wizards story and overall history of Thay, and the geography, are Ed.
Re. running mega-dungeons: Ed provides the dimensions and full descriptions as he goes, but his style is character- and plot-centered, and very loose and immersive. Figurines are seldom used, dice are seldom rolled, and rules are rarely referred to; it’s an unfolding STORY. Ed’s original dungeons are full of “dressing,” from old dried monster dung [and, if they were inhabited strongholds, privies and drainage chutes and all the “realistic” detail] to dead adventurers with their gear, to vermin, and, yes, lots of monsters…but REALISTIC monsters, not a dragon in the next room from a tarrasque with no room for either critter to have entered said rooms in the first place. In other words, humor but little silly wackiness, and human brigands and adventurers as well as orcs, hobgoblins, kobolds, goblins, and bugbears all using dungeons as homes, and defending them with traps and ambushes.
And NO HEXES. That’s why the Old Grey Box has acetate overlays for the hexes, instead of maps “spoiled” by having hexes drawn on them and influencing the way rivers run, mountains loom, etc.
So there you have it. :}
love,
THO
P.S. And I believe Ed stands with Wooly re. chromatic magics, including color spray and prismatic and all "dazzling hues" magic.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 05 Sep 2017 : 18:00:12
quote:
Originally posted by TBeholder

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hello again, all. TBeholder, dwarves hammer (if on their own) or roll (with a rolling mill) out metal pages (thin metal plates)

Thanks! I should have guessed the metal part given their habits.
Wait..
quote:
Ed says all chromatic magics have a tendency

"all" chromatic magics? There's more to it in Realms than Chromatic Blade and (Gygax's) Chromatic Orb?



Perhaps it's just me, but I'd put the prismatic spells in that category.
TBeholder Posted - 05 Sep 2017 : 16:36:57
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

See the write-up of Lhammaruntosz in Wyrms of the North (Dragon #245) for information on draconic names in the Realms.

Here: Wyrms of the North: Lhammaruntosz, "Claws of the Coast"
George Krashos Posted - 05 Sep 2017 : 15:01:04
quote:
Originally posted by Zeromaru X

Hi again dear THO and Ed. I have yet another question.

Reading dragon names, the dragons of the Realms have quite complicated yet unique names. Well, some like Tamarand (by far, one of my favorite dragons in the Realms) have simple names, but most of them have complicated names. Yet, reading the draconic dictionary in sources like Races of Dragons, I cannot find some of the draconic words in those names. Comparing the names of dragons in the Realms, they are unlike the names of dragons in other settings. I can recognize dragons of the Realms because of their names.

Is there a guide to name dragons in the Realms? I mean, giving their complicated yet unique names that have a indiscutible Realmsian vibe in them.

Thanks in advance and greetings as well.



See the write-up of Lhammaruntosz in Wyrms of the North (Dragon #245) for information on draconic names in the Realms.

-- George Krashos
TBeholder Posted - 05 Sep 2017 : 14:50:08
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hello again, all. TBeholder, dwarves hammer (if on their own) or roll (with a rolling mill) out metal pages (thin metal plates)

Thanks! I should have guessed the metal part given their habits.
Wait..
quote:
Ed says all chromatic magics have a tendency

"all" chromatic magics? There's more to it in Realms than Chromatic Blade and (Gygax's) Chromatic Orb?
Wooly Rupert Posted - 04 Sep 2017 : 13:22:00
Next to nothing changed on the maps with the Time of Troubles. Aside from the water becoming contaminated at Boareskyr Bridge, I can't think of any physical changes, anywhere.

I believe I read that the maps in the OGB are pretty close to Ed's Realms, at least from the Sword Coast to the Dales and Moonsea area. It's when you go beyond those areas that it becomes less Ed and more TSR.
Baldorar Posted - 04 Sep 2017 : 12:22:43
Howdy to everyone!

I've been reading these boards for some weeks now and have some questions for Ed. They may have been already answered, but it's kind of hard to look through all the threads till I find it!

I've been playing two campaigns in the Realms in 2nd Edition AD&D and my first question is: to what extent the Volo's Guides have been changed to meet TSRs standards and how much is from the original Ed's home campaign? Are they usable for pre-Time of Troubles campaigns?

The second question is a similar one. I've purchased recently the 1st Edition Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting and I'm planning to buy the FR modules from 1 to 6. As I want to start my home campaign from a "purer Greenwoodian" perception of the Realms... my question is the following: how much in it is properly Ed's and how much is TSR's?. I know, for instance, that Douglas Niles changed a lot of the Moonshaes, but I don't know to what extent. As for the Grey Box and the other FR modules, don't know anything.

Yet another question for Ed, but that you can also can answer, my Lady THO.

I know he likes to run mini-dungeons from time to time. But, I'm curious about how did/does he run mega-dungeons (i.e. Undermountain): what's it using the typical old school pattern, counting feet on corridors and describing room proportions, or was it done in any other, more loose and inmersive way? Did he use to put lots of creatures in rooms like you can see in some of the older modules (G 1-3, the B series of modules foot basic D&D, etc.)?

Did/do you run hex crawls our use a hex map while exploring?

Of course I'm talking about your home campaigns, not about what you have to do for TSR.

Thanks in advance!

Maybe other posters can give me a hand too.


Thank you!
Zeromaru X Posted - 02 Sep 2017 : 05:29:07
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

It really is a nifty little 'micro-setting', and deserves to be rescued from oblivion.





And I have yet another question for Ed, though really I don't want to bother him to much (but Candlekeep has been to me like the OGB was for the early fans of the Realms—yeah, quite late for the party), so I apologize as well for bombarding Ed with so many questions.

To the point. I was updating some articles in the Wiki, and I cannot fail to notice that all the known Kings of Justice (Protanther, Tamarand, potentially Lareth as well) really hate Vaasa, going as far as organizing campaigns against the... Vasaans? (which is the demonym of Vaasa, BTW?).

What is wrong with that place that brings the animosity of Lawful Good dragons more than even the elves? (who rightfully earned the enmity of dragons with their Dracorage stuff).
Markustay Posted - 02 Sep 2017 : 03:44:17
And because I should ask a question when I comment -
Hows the Ormpur adventure coming along? Is it going to tie-in to any of the Chult stuff WotC is doing?

quote:
Originally posted by Zeromaru X

Yeah, Markustay did an excellent map, and the region he chose is perfect. But I want to know Ed's opinion about it, if possible (if not, there is no problem, really). Also, as for the WotC solution you mention... I cannot find it. But my google-fu is terrible.

Yes, and I WILl finish that map, dammit! LOL

I've actually shoe-horned it into 4 different places thus-far, but the one I'm doing the high-res map for is really PERFECT. Dead center of everything (WotC has going on), without upsetting the apple-cart, and thats no easy task in THAT part of The Realms (The North, between Waterdeep and Neverwinter). I think you, Zeromaru, (or both of us) are up to the task of 'blending' the lore. I've seen what you've put together for the Nentir Vale setting and all I can say is I haven't seen research that precise and well-annotated since I worked with Eric Boid. I'd really like to see it up on the DM's Guild - It would not only fill-out even more of the 5e Forgotten Realms, but it would also keep the 4e players nicely grounded in The Realms (make them feel as if they weren't just 'left behind' like yesterday's cold French Fries).

It really is a nifty little 'micro-setting', and deserves to be rescued from oblivion.

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