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| Rabiesbunny |
Posted - 18 Feb 2009 : 15:46:21
I just have to ask!
Has anyone ACTUALLY played a Cleric of Eldath? if so, what were they like? Every time I pass her entry in Faiths and Pantheons and say "Wow, it would be kind of interesting to play someone who worshiped her!". It seems people seeking peace and nature go to Silvanus, Chauntea, Mielikki, Lurue, any number of gods that embody that.
Just curious; I always thought it would be fun to make a cleric who worshipped her because she thought waterfalls were the prettiest things ever. I'd like to insert a druid of her into my campaign as an NPC, methinks. |
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| Duneth Despana |
Posted - 03 Sep 2015 : 16:02:45
there's an Eldathyn holding a bow on page 145 of Ed Greenwood presents Elminster's Forgotten Realms. |
| Markustay |
Posted - 03 Sep 2015 : 13:50:47
quote:
Originally posted by Caladan Brood
Eldath is a ...she?!?! Lol, how have I never noticed that! *Smacks face hard*
Thats okay, for twenty years I thought Chauntea was a dude.  |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 03 Sep 2015 : 03:21:56
quote:
Originally posted by Caladan Brood
Eldath is a ...she?!?! Lol, how have I never noticed that! *Smacks face hard*
"She" makes an appearance in one of Ed's "Shadows of the Avatar" trilogy novels.
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| Caladan Brood |
Posted - 02 Sep 2015 : 20:37:38
Eldath is a ...she?!?! Lol, how have I never noticed that! *Smacks face hard* |
| Noad Biddleberry |
Posted - 02 Sep 2015 : 20:09:23
Is anyone still reading this??
I'm playing in 5E now and I've created a half-orc Ranger. With the acolyte profession, I can be a follower of Eldath.
The backstory I have is that I was part of a Orc, Half-orc tribe. My scouting party came across some followers of Eldath and attacked them. Tho they were pacifists, they easily defeated us without killing any of us.
My character Mercurial Pfrick, was interested in this source of power and strives to become unstoppable in the way of peace (i.e. he doesn't get it yet :D ) And later takes the name of one of his supervisors to signify a change now becoming Guy M. Pfrick. (pronouced Gii not Guy, but he lets people say that)
He is currently lvl 3. I only want to choose pacifist spells until later on, but his martial skill comes from his background, and early in his levels he still chooses to fight.
Right now I have Goodberry, Speak with Animals and Fog Cloud. Eventually the plan is to make him a Monk, but I need to have some kind of last minute gambit to defend myself.
So I go Ranger to lvl 15 to get my beastmaster spells to affect my Boar companion also when I target myself, then and level 18, (monk lvl 3) I can cast Fist of Thunder to case thunderwave on myself, which in turn casts it from my Boar as well.
I'm going to try to roleplay him as he never quite gets it, but avoids combat as much as possible in later game scenarios.
He also has cool quips like "The only way to obtain peace, is through WAR!!!" or "have a taste of my passive-fist!"
Give me some suggestions on a way to go. The DM where I play is not super fond of multiclassing in 5E, but I think it fits the character. |
| ErskineF |
Posted - 21 Feb 2009 : 05:59:40
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Skateboard dude and Rollerskate lad
I've been watching too much Stephen Lynch. 
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| Markustay |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 23:25:53
He didn't stay that way? 
I stopped reading comics right after he joined-up with Silver sable, along with Skateboard dude and Rollerskate lad (or whatever their real names were). It seemed like evry year at least one villain 'went soft' because of Spidey.
I think 'Spider-boy' and the Toad were pretty funny temporary side-kicks - I think thats where they got the idea for 'Increda-boy' in the movie The Incredibles.
At least those story-lines were good for a laugh; glad I left before everything got so gruesome. 
Anyhow... bad-guy turned good-guy, only to show-up much later and become a bad-guy again (proving once and for all to the PCs that a leaopard doesn't change it's spots) sounds like a real cool continuing story-line for background flavor. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 23:18:05
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Turning 'bad guys' into 'good guys' is just SO Spiderman, IMHO.
Not that it is a bad thing, but they over did it in Spidey's comics (to the point where they made fun of themselves with a group of 'Spider-rejects'), and I can't help but think of all those bad guys that "saw the light" thanks to May Parker's nephew.
Heh. I still remember when Sandman tried to "go good." What a laugh that was.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 23:14:46
quote:
Originally posted by Ardashir
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Eh. If I had to choose a Firefly cast member I'd want in my "personal party," it'd be Kaylee.
What, no love for Inara?
I personally think she makes a great role model for a priestess of Sune or Sharess, with a personality rather more complex than the simple sex kitten.
Inara would certainly have the benefit of experience, which can be an asset, I suppose.
And I'd see Inara as more of a cleric of Sharess, rather than Sune. She doesn't seem to hold all that much love for those she "assists." Rather, Inara fits the "sensual fulfilment" and "festhall" aspects of the Dancing Lady's faith.
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Inara would be a good model for a priestess of Sune.
Actually, she became a rather suitable model for a Canopian NPC in one of my BT campaigns set in the Periphery a couple of years back. |
| Markustay |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 18:30:28
Turning 'bad guys' into 'good guys' is just SO Spiderman, IMHO.
Not that it is a bad thing, but they over did it in Spidey's comics (to the point where they made fun of themselves with a group of 'Spider-rejects'), and I can't help but think of all those bad guys that "saw the light" thanks to May Parker's nephew.
Of course, if he didn't do that, Silver Sable wouldn't have at least half her mercenaries.
Anyhow, one of my favorite CKC articles (IIRC) was the one centered around an adventuring comapany/mercnary group of 'enlightened' fiends. Something about 'evil guys' saving the day tickles my inner-DM. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 18:20:56
quote:
Originally posted by Ardashir
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Eh. If I had to choose a Firefly cast member I'd want in my "personal party," it'd be Kaylee.
What, no love for Inara?
I personally think she makes a great role model for a priestess of Sune or Sharess, with a personality rather more complex than the simple sex kitten.
Kaylee would be more fun to hang out with until the clothes came off. Then it's Inara. Of course, why pick just one of the two?
Inara would be a good model for a priestess of Sune. |
| Ashe Ravenheart |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 18:17:22
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That's weird. All this talk of Firefly when I just got a brand new Browncoat t-shirt from ThinkGeek to wear to GenCon.
The fun thing is, I also got a cheap Sonic Screwdriver replica in the same order... Talk about polar opposites!
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I've always played most monks and druids as being pacifists by nature. So, the pacifism of Eldath doesn't stick out to me... |
| Ardashir |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 17:48:00
quote:
Originally posted by ErskineF
Isn't that how it works? Have you ever known a DM who didn't bring back an escaped bad guy to plague the party? Just once I'd like to see the bad guy come back and thank us for turning him away from a life of evil.
Well, the Book of Exalted Deeds did have guidelines for turning someone away from a life devoted to evil, which struck me as something that would be very good for clerics of Eilistraee to know (for dealing with their less enlightened brethren -- or should that be sistren?).
Admittedly, that wouldn;t be suited to every campaign or style of play, but I personally would like seeing a DM allow PC clerics or paladins occasionaly win a 'battle' for conversion. |
| Ardashir |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 17:44:02
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Eh. If I had to choose a Firefly cast member I'd want in my "personal party," it'd be Kaylee.
What, no love for Inara?
I personally think she makes a great role model for a priestess of Sune or Sharess, with a personality rather more complex than the simple sex kitten. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 13:24:06
That's it! When I said "personal party"... I meant a party consisting on myself and Kaylee ONLY. 
I even have some neato ideas for "role-playing scenarios" our characters could face together.   |
| ranger_of_the_unicorn_run |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 13:16:27
I think Sage was using personal party in a somewhat different way, though. |
| Nerfed2Hell |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 07:14:18
Smooth things over like a bulldozer through a china shop.  |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 06:51:00
quote:
Originally posted by Nerfed2Hell
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Eh. If I had to choose a Firefly cast member I'd want in my "personal party," it'd be Kaylee.
S'funny, but if I could pick only one, it wouldn't be any of the babefest that make up the female side of the crew... though River is tempting for being cute and a butt-kicker. No, I'd want Jayne along to smooth things over when the going gets rough.
Jayne smooth things over? That's a new use of that phrase!
I'd pick Kaylee if I needed anything other than a fighter-type. Her personality and her looks are just about the best possible combination! |
| Nerfed2Hell |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 06:05:35
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Eh. If I had to choose a Firefly cast member I'd want in my "personal party," it'd be Kaylee.
S'funny, but if I could pick only one, it wouldn't be any of the babefest that make up the female side of the crew... though River is tempting for being cute and a butt-kicker. No, I'd want Jayne along to smooth things over when the going gets rough. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 04:42:52
Eh. If I had to choose a Firefly cast member I'd want in my "personal party," it'd be Kaylee.
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*Hopes the Lady K isn't reading this*
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| ErskineF |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 02:53:22
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Awesome reference! 
Zoë: "Preacher, don't the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killin'?"
Book: "Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps."
Shepherd was a great character, and he'd be a great basis for playing an adventuring pacifist. That was an excellent suggestion!
Gawd, I love that show. How the hell they could've cancelled it I'll never understand. 
Preacher's a great character and all, but if I had to choose between him and Mal for my party, I'd chose Zoë.
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| The Sage |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 00:22:37
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Uzzy
Well, you could always go for a Shepard Book type 'pacifist'. He's always helpful out of combat, with both advice and skills, but is willing to pick up a weapon and fight (though not kill) when his friends lives are in danger.
Awesome reference!
Zoë: "Preacher, don't the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killin'?"
Book: "Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps."
Shepherd was a great character, and he'd be a great basis for playing an adventuring pacifist. That was an excellent suggestion!
I'll agree with that. And I'll note further that the Serenity RPG has some rather useful tidbits on both Shepherd and his role that could be easily adapted for an fantasy-based adventuring pacifist type.
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 20 Feb 2009 : 00:06:47
quote:
Originally posted by Uzzy
Well, you could always go for a Shepard Book type 'pacifist'. He's always helpful out of combat, with both advice and skills, but is willing to pick up a weapon and fight (though not kill) when his friends lives are in danger.
Awesome reference!
Zoë: "Preacher, don't the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killin'?"
Book: "Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps."
Shepherd was a great character, and he'd be a great basis for playing an adventuring pacifist. That was an excellent suggestion!
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| Uzzy |
Posted - 19 Feb 2009 : 23:28:23
Well, you could always go for a Shepard Book type 'pacifist'. He's always helpful out of combat, with both advice and skills, but is willing to pick up a weapon and fight (though not kill) when his friends lives are in danger.
Absolute pacifism probably wouldn't work in D&D, but a character who is very hesitant to use force, but does when other options are exhausted, could very well work. It'd lead to some interesting RP too. |
| Nerfed2Hell |
Posted - 19 Feb 2009 : 22:06:11
Actually, knowing my group, the paranoia comes from previous DMs.  |
| ErskineF |
Posted - 19 Feb 2009 : 21:27:27
quote:
Originally posted by Nerfed2Hell
But when the entire party wants to kill everything and everyone extremely dead just to be sure and they border on turning against the pacifist, its probably time for the pacifist to part company. 
No doubt.
I'm just saying that there's probably a reason why the group is that paranoid. The DM creates the reality of the game world. He determines whether mercy and pacifism are practical or not, and whether the example set by characters with those qualities can have a positive moral impact on the world. If mercy and pacifism are always rewarded with betrayal, the players won't be suckers for very long. I think if someone is going to play a character like that, they would need to talk to the DM first and see what his take on it is going to be. If he's smacking his lips over being able to put the PCs into impossible moral dilemmas, then it's best to stay away from it.
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| Nerfed2Hell |
Posted - 19 Feb 2009 : 18:39:13
quote:
Originally posted by ErskineF
quote:
Originally posted by Nerfed2Hell
they wanted to kill everything that challeged them because anything that's a threat once will likely (in their opinion) hunt you down and kill you in your sleep if it escapes/is allowed to go free.
Isn't that how it works? Have you ever known a DM who didn't bring back an escaped bad guy to plague the party? Just once I'd like to see the bad guy come back and thank us for turning him away from a life of evil.
Of course, that's how it works... things might get boring if the escaping bad guys just went on the way every single time. But it might be nice, as you say, the bad guys occasionally come back to thank the heroes for setting them straight or even just get the hell out of the area just in case the heroes decide to come looking for them.
But when the entire party wants to kill everything and everyone extremely dead just to be sure and they border on turning against the pacifist, its probably time for the pacifist to part company.
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| Markustay |
Posted - 19 Feb 2009 : 17:58:20
Wasn't she replaced by Perrier in 4e?
Seriously, I have used in her in Homebrew Realmslore several times (she is one of my favorites), and also in story-arcs (mostly as 'backdrop'), but never had an adventure based around her and her church, or run a PC or even an NPC that followed her.
She's definately one of the Faerûn's more 'flavorful' deities, but she's really not one of the 'movers and shakers' in the Realms. |
| Darkhund |
Posted - 19 Feb 2009 : 17:10:15
I had a Thayvian monk once, that dual-worshipped Jergal and Eldath, creating his own order, The Path of the Peaceful Death. Its an interesting line to play. He would parry and heal, and that was pretty much it in combat. Excepting against unlicensed Undead (per Jergal's church). Then he'd gladly make their skulls asplode with his palms. |
| Bakra |
Posted - 19 Feb 2009 : 12:43:55
In the days of 3e, I occasionally participated with a party who had a pacifist priestess of Lliira. She would cast protective spells and healing magic’s before, during, and after combat all the while preaching to everyone. My cleric of Tempus thought she was a hoot. He spent one long night giving a lecture to some young adventurers who made the mistake of heckling her at the local tavern.
Ahhh, fond memories.
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