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silverwolfer Posted - 22 Sep 2014 : 16:48:25
So as some of you know lore is lacking so far so I have some for you.


According to the angel entry for mm. Fallen angels go down sometimes to serve Zariel ruler of the first layer of hell.
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sleyvas Posted - 27 Sep 2014 : 01:22:18
"Fallen angels go down sometimes"

fallen angels... prostitutes... whatever you want to call them
LordofBones Posted - 25 Sep 2014 : 11:06:39
Bel also loaned her his Dukes, so she's probably in the good books of the Dark Lord, in addition to the Dark Eight.
Shemmy Posted - 25 Sep 2014 : 07:36:04
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

I had thought Tiamat was the guard dog of Baators first layer?



Tiamat's domain was situated adjacent to the gateway between Avernus and Dis.

She had a rather special relationship with both the Lord of the First and the Dark 8 (even going so far as to collaborate with Pearza on the creation of the abishai, and having a child with Cantrum). So yeah a bit of a special relationship with the fiends.
Delwa Posted - 22 Sep 2014 : 23:57:37
He's listed in the MM as one of the "former rulers" of Avernus. Guess WotC spoiled the ending to the Tyranny of Dragons story. :P
Ayrik Posted - 22 Sep 2014 : 23:11:00
I had thought Tiamat was the guard dog of Baators first layer?
Delwa Posted - 22 Sep 2014 : 20:11:08
I'm liking the presentation of the MM. I'm mostly ok with the lore, simply because any changes made have little impact on my current game.
I am wondering how the MM lore on the hells differs from the Realms version. I recall a recent discussion here about Planescape's version of the hells differing from Ed's description and I forgot to look that up in detail.
silverwolfer Posted - 22 Sep 2014 : 18:21:25
Some are saying the night hag is back also. An the daughter is freeing meph
Mirtek Posted - 22 Sep 2014 : 18:07:51
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Originally posted by dazzlerdal

What, Zarial, ruler of the first layer of hell, when?
What happened to that Pit Fiend guy.

Not that it matters to me. Not really liked any 5e stuff so far so i wasnt really expecting to like the Monster Manual either.

Nice that they are including a bit of lore in the monster writeups again. Even if it is wrong.
Actually Zariel was the original ruler of Avernus, until Bel's putsch. No one knew for sure what happened to her, but rumors always were that Bel had her imprisoned and was still leeching of her power. So it seems as if Bel was not careful enough and she got out with a vengeance
silverwolfer Posted - 22 Sep 2014 : 17:43:15
Just a little flavor blurb in context for angels. I guess z is a falleconcertsn angel turned devil. No greater context is provided as it has no relevancy.

The monster manual is gowrgeous. Every monster gets a full image . An
Gary Dallison Posted - 22 Sep 2014 : 16:56:06
What, Zarial, ruler of the first layer of hell, when?

What happened to that Pit Fiend guy.

Not that it matters to me. Not really liked any 5e stuff so far so i wasnt really expecting to like the Monster Manual either.

Nice that they are including a bit of lore in the monster writeups again. Even if it is wrong.

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