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Lothlos Posted - 01 Jul 2013 : 02:02:25
I have never ran a campaign with where all or part (more than one member) of the part competed in arena style combat. I am looking for advice and/or sources that would help me keep track of all the stuff going on. Also we are campaigning in the Realms so suggestions as to what location would be most likely to have arena combat of some sort would also be helpful.
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Lothlos Posted - 03 Jul 2013 : 13:47:07
@Mister X - some combination of 3 and 3.5e is what I will be using. I like the CR idea.

Thanks for the CotSQ reference and the 4e lore.
MisterX Posted - 03 Jul 2013 : 11:27:30
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Originally posted by Ze

I'm pretty sure there's an arena in Maerimydra (sp?).
It was built by the drow dwelling there, but it still stands even after the CotSQ occupation.
And it was mapped out in the module.



Correct, there is a map and some background-fluff. No Cruch concerning mass/arena-combat as I recall.

@Lothlos: If you're gaming with 3e, just take the challenge-rating into account when determining winners or losers. As a possible rule of thumb, the monster with the higher CR should do the job. Do the rest with epic descriptions of the fight. ;)
Ze Posted - 02 Jul 2013 : 17:53:36
I'm pretty sure there's an arena in Maerimydra (sp?).
It was built by the drow dwelling there, but it still stands even after the CotSQ occupation.
And it was mapped out in the module.
BEAST Posted - 02 Jul 2013 : 17:25:26
I believe that the FRCG (4E) says that the latest King Obould has an arena for his orcs in the Citadel of Many-Arrows, too.
Caladan Brood Posted - 02 Jul 2013 : 17:25:24
Lothlos, I think I did, in those cases I simply decided who won and who died "in the background" so the players wouldn't have to watch me roll dice all night (or I rolled a die to determine winner/loser quickly).
Lothlos Posted - 02 Jul 2013 : 16:04:41
Thanks for the clarification. I was able to find all three books you mentioned. There is some good information about mass combat in the Rules Cyclopedia.

While I was looking through old books I found The Complete Gladiator's Handbook (2e Dark Sun), The Glory of Rome Campaign (2e Historical) as well.

Thanks for all the help.
Kentinal Posted - 01 Jul 2013 : 22:35:08
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Originally posted by Lothlos


I have not found the references to arena combat in the OD&D material as of this post, but I am still looking.


OD&D and BD&D are different. The complied, revised rules for BD&D are in the Rules Cyclopedia. Copyright 1991. As I recall, though can check the presentation was in Companion that offered rules for levels 15 to 25, copyright 1984. Expert likely also had some notes, just not going to drag out the copyright date.

OD&D is the White book type thing Chain Mail, BD&D and AD&D were second editions or revisions of the Original game published. Artitic and or financial disputes appears to have cause lawsuits between the two founders.
Lothlos Posted - 01 Jul 2013 : 22:14:51
Thanks for all the contributions so far. The Monstrous Arcana: The Illithiad (2e), The Mysteries of the Moonsea (3e), The Complete Fighters Handbook (2e), all had helpful information. The examples form the novels Exile, and The Spine of the World, where the Prisoners' Carnival of Luskan is described, were also very helpful.

Caladan Brood in your game did you ever have an arena event in which several combatants fought against each other and only one was allowed to win/survive? If so how did you keep track of the NPC's that were fighting each other?

I have not found the references to arena combat in the OD&D material as of this post, but I am still looking.
MisterX Posted - 01 Jul 2013 : 21:37:37
Westgate (at the Dragoncoast) is famous for its Arena.
Kyrel Posted - 01 Jul 2013 : 15:56:47
If I'm not much mistaken, Hillsfar is more or less renowned for it's arena fights, and I believe that Thay also have gladiatorial arenas (at least the "Thayan Gladiator" prestige class from Champions of Ruin seem to suggest it). Also, I wouldn't be surprised if you'd be able to find an arena in many other places.
Caladan Brood Posted - 01 Jul 2013 : 15:44:58
I ran a game once where the PCs were captured and forced into arena fighting. The story was as much about their doings "off-time", meeting other NPCs. Once a week ingame there was a fight. I had prepared a table of encounters which I used; sometimes I had several PCs fight a more powerful adversary. Of course there was always the risk of death so I had weak foes in the beginning, gradually building up the danger and eventually the PCs became famed and popular, increasing their status among the arena fighters. Eventually, one character was mauled by a beast of some kind, his blood slaking the sand to the roar of the crowd. Soon after, the PCs made their escape. So what I basically did was run a "Gladiator"-like story in the Realms (if I remember correctly this happened in a self-invented fighting pit run by Orcs and evil men below ground.
Hoondatha Posted - 01 Jul 2013 : 13:14:54
There's also discussions of tournaments in the 2e Complete Fighter's Handbook.
Kentinal Posted - 01 Jul 2013 : 12:56:49
Well BD&D did have discussions about how tournaments can be run. Such contests like jousts clearly could be used for a PC vs. PC in a contest that might result in death.
As for tracking arena contests, it is the same as tracking PC vs. NPC. If large scale contests, clearly it would be fairer to track all NPC vs. NPC contests.
Hoondatha Posted - 01 Jul 2013 : 12:14:29
Illithid thrall combat is common in all illithid cities, not just the one near Menzo (check Illithiad).

As for surface cities that have gladiatorial games, Hillsfar is a big one. They have demihumans fight each other; no humans take part. Gladiatorial games are common across the entire nation of Thay. Other places that are mentioned as having gladiatorial games are Calimshan and the Vilhon Reach, as well as Luskan as was previously mentioned. So really, you've got a lot of options around the Realms.
BEAST Posted - 01 Jul 2013 : 04:30:23
In RAS's Exile, the illithids staged arena combat between their psionically-enthralled slaves. That's a starting point.

I seem to vaguely recall the Prisoners' Carnival of Luskan having something like this, too, in addition to the public torture sessions.

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