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| jordanz |
Posted - 05 May 2012 : 08:42:22
adventuring party? The realms most prominent and capable epic adventurers banding together to face threats no one else could hope to oppose.
Purposed team
Drizzt
Aoth Fezrim
Cadderly the Ghost King
Arthrogate
Shandril's great grandaughter hier to the Spellfire
Erevis Cale's Spawn
Pharaun the wizard resurrected yet again.../or Araevin Teshurr
Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing a kickazz nigh epic/epic adventuring party take on the awesome baddies in the realms. |
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| Dennis |
Posted - 15 May 2012 : 05:03:51
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Szass Tam I think makes a good Thanos - they are both very overt (unlike Larloch, who is a mystery wrapped in an enigma... or some such poppycock). Especially if you consider what he attempted with the Dread Rings (has 'Infinity Gauntlet' written all over it).
The Infinity Gauntlet is hardly the only fictional device ever created that could alter the very fabric of reality, and it's hardly the first, either. Read the mythologies and folklore of different countries, you'd find them in droves. I wouldn't immediately conclude that Richard based his Dread Rings on the IG. |
| Markustay |
Posted - 10 May 2012 : 06:28:19
Not to mention killing millions of people.
Jergal smiles upon them both. 
Not really feeling Larloch as Thanos, but if he is, does that make Halaster Drax the Destroyer?
Then again, maybe it should be the other way around. 
Szass Tam I think makes a good Thanos - they are both very overt (unlike Larloch, who is a mystery wrapped in an enigma... or some such poppycock). Especially if you consider what he attempted with the Dread Rings (has 'Infinity Gauntlet' written all over it).
Who was that rogue that befriended Wulfagar in Luskan? Make him Paste-Pot Pete.  |
| The Sage |
Posted - 10 May 2012 : 04:08:42
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
So Thanos will be the villian in Avengers 2...
You mean Larloch, right?
'Cuz Larloch = Thanos. 
Cheers
Actually, I'm thinking Karsus would be a more accurate Realms translation for Thanos. After all, which other Realms character -- other than Karsus -- has tasted of the divine "godlike power of infinity"... only to lose it again so quickly for realising that he wasn't worthy of such ultimate power? |
| Erik Scott de Bie |
Posted - 10 May 2012 : 03:58:36
I didn't want to tap one of the seven sisters (ahem!) for the team, because they're more of their own team, plus Kyri needed to be on there, I think. If only for Wooly's benefit.
But yes, the Simbul makes great sense as the Scarlet Witch.
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
So Thanos will be the villian in Avengers 2...
You mean Larloch, right?
'Cuz Larloch = Thanos.
Cheers |
| Brimstone |
Posted - 10 May 2012 : 03:44:06
So Thanos will be the villian in Avengers 2... |
| Nilus Reynard |
Posted - 09 May 2012 : 07:44:18
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Karsus
-God no.
Well said. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 09 May 2012 : 02:41:25
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
... Manshoon is totally Dr. Doom. It's obvious, isn't it?
Good call. And with all his clones... they can double as Doombots.  |
| Dennis |
Posted - 09 May 2012 : 01:24:09
I like your list, Erik.
Larloch as Magneto. Could work, given some similarities of their background and present state.
Though I'd choose Alassra as Wanda. Both are known to be unpredictable, powerful, and quick to anger.
I'd have Fyodor as Wolverine. Don't they look alike?! |
| Eladrinstar |
Posted - 08 May 2012 : 04:06:33
I have a secret Arcane organization in my home campaign, made up of Seventeen different mages from different parts of Faerun, even though they'd otherwise be at each other's throats. Including a Red Wizard, a Rashemi witch, a Zhentarim mage, a Harper, etc. |
| Veritas |
Posted - 07 May 2012 : 21:32:29
Im going to mix and match class roles and heros here.
The Srinshee- DPS (obviously)
Elminster- Tank (just look at those rippling biceps, also as of 4e, you wouldn't like him when he's angry)
The Simbul - Healer (because of her warm friendly demeanor)- Wanda Maximoff
Larloch- (as The Vision or alternatively, Jarvis the Butler)
Szass Tam- (The eye candy)- The Black Widow
Drizzt - Thor
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| Thauranil |
Posted - 07 May 2012 : 21:18:46
Hmm who would be Spidey then? Jaraxle i think comes closet. |
| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 07 May 2012 : 14:47:26
I actually often thought of Thor when reading about Wulfgar...I mean, it is not even a longshot! Throwing/returning hammer!!!! |
| Markustay |
Posted - 07 May 2012 : 14:36:12
A good version of the kingpin is as close as I think we can get (there's also The Blob, but thats another bady, and his IQ doesn't fit Mirt at all).
I figured Magneto for Larloch because of the power-level, and also because they are both the "I have my OWN agenda" kind of guys - not precisely evil, but certainly not good, either.
Wolverine's tough - the only Lycanthrope good guy I know of is Kelemvor, but that doesn't really fit. Driizt, perhaps, when he goes into 'the Hunter' mode. Still don't have the enhanced senses or healing factor, though. A typical troll is closer to Wolvie then Kelemvor.
Jander Sunstar as Morbius.
Kane as Shang-Chi (dating myself with that one).
The Unseen are the Skrulls.
Other Avengers:
The Black Knight? (The Red Knight?)
I suppose Gilgamessh and Hercules could actually BE Gilgamesh and Hercules, but that isn't very Realmsian.
Danilo Thann as Wonderman (the whole 'Joe Hollywood' thing). Maybe as Starfox would be a better choice....
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| The Sage |
Posted - 07 May 2012 : 06:15:02
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
Mirt needs to be in there somewhere...
The male equivalent of Big Bertha from the Great Lakes Avengers? |
| Brimstone |
Posted - 07 May 2012 : 04:14:11
Mirt needs to be in there somewhere... |
| sfdragon |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 19:53:37
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Avengers totally needs to happen.
Here's my team:
Drizzt Do'Urden as Captain America: Super soldier from another time and place, noble but often an outsider.
Elminster Aumar as Iron Man: Brash but undeniably powerful blaster with more riches than he knows what to do with, noted lover of the ladies.
Arilyn Moonblade as Spider-Woman: Skilled lone-wolf operative with some deep covert contacts, goes her own way.
Wulfgar as Thor: Strong man and heir to the power of an ancient people, prone to rages.
Alias as Ms. Marvel: Powerful woman warrior with some serious power, persistent identity crisis.
Khelben "Blackstaff" Arunsun as Nick Fury: Pragmatic mastermind and all-around badass, has some serious history.
Kyriana Agrivar as the Scarlet Witch: Sorceress powerhouse, conflicted aspects of her heritage.
Fox-at-Twilight as Black Widow: Alluring lady spy, of dubious loyalties and motives.
Drasek Riven as Hawkeye: Morally shady assassin, able to take that extra step when necessary.
Thibbledorf Pwent as The Incredible Hulk: 'Nuff said.
Cheers
P.S. And Szass Tam is totally the Red Skull and Manshoon is totally Dr. Doom. It's obvious, isn't it?
I second this......
but isn't wolverine an avenger now???? yep him a spidey.... so who would they be in the realms.
Bruenor as wolverine??? |
| Erik Scott de Bie |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 19:52:21
OMG the Xanathar as Modok.
Cheers |
| idilippy |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 19:17:41
I don't know where I fall on a Realms Avengers, but your doomsday scenario is very cool Markustay. If I get a hankering for a high level game I would totally start it out exactly like that, with the PCs and all those crazy strong NPCs arriving in a strange location after a teleport, learning the fate that will befall the world if they don't stop it, and being sent out as a group to do what they can while other powerful NPCs split off to do what they can. That could be interesting, especially trying to come up with something so horrible that all those varied NPC powers and egos would choose to work together. |
| Markustay |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 15:40:55
And Cyric as Loki (another obvious choice). Asmodeus of course would be Mephisto (being smarter and out-classing Cyric/Loki).
Great list, Erik! Pwent as the Hulk is an odd, but apt choice. I can't really think of any other 'meat-shield' style charaters (known NPCs) in the Realms.
Jarlaxle as the wise-cracking Spiderman? (who also just happens to be thought of as a villain by most folks).
Tavis Burden (Firbolg) as Giantman, and maybe Olive Ruskettle as the wasp (not a perfect fit, but we have no faires).
Xanathar as Modoc, Larloch as magneto? |
| Erik Scott de Bie |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 06:34:45
Forgotten Realms Avengers totally needs to happen.
Here's my team:
Drizzt Do'Urden as Captain America: Super soldier from another time and place, noble but often an outsider.
Elminster Aumar as Iron Man: Brash but undeniably powerful blaster with more riches than he knows what to do with, noted lover of the ladies.
Arilyn Moonblade as Spider-Woman: Skilled lone-wolf operative with some deep covert contacts, goes her own way.
Wulfgar as Thor: Strong man and heir to the power of an ancient people, prone to rages.
Alias as Ms. Marvel: Powerful woman warrior with some serious power, persistent identity crisis.
Khelben "Blackstaff" Arunsun as Nick Fury: Pragmatic mastermind and all-around badass, has some serious history.
Kyriana Agrivar as the Scarlet Witch: Sorceress powerhouse, conflicted aspects of her heritage.
Fox-at-Twilight as Black Widow: Alluring lady spy, of dubious loyalties and motives.
Drasek Riven as Hawkeye: Morally shady assassin, able to take that extra step when necessary.
Thibbledorf Pwent as The Incredible Hulk: 'Nuff said.
Cheers
P.S. And Szass Tam is totally the Red Skull and Manshoon is totally Dr. Doom. It's obvious, isn't it? |
| Dennis |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 03:41:26
quote:
Originally posted by jordanz
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
So who would be the Fantastic 4?
I nominate the Harpells
Harkle Harpell - is Mr Fantastic
Matherly Harpell (he was turned to stone) - is the Thing
Bella don DelRoy Harpell - daughter of DelRoy -Invisible Woman
Bidderdoo Harpell Human Torch
Oooo. I seriously second this. |
| jordanz |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 03:30:26
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
So who would be the Fantastic 4?
I nominate the Harpells
Harkle Harpell - is Mr Fantastic
Matherly Harpell (he was turned to stone) - is the Thing
Bella don DelRoy Harpell - daughter of DelRoy -Invisible Woman
Bidderdoo Harpell Human Torch |
| sfdragon |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 02:13:54
you ever notice that most of the big wig groups such as teh companions of the hall, the chosen, various other groups were all localized groups....
only the harpers,zhents and a few others were not |
| The Sage |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 02:12:07
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon
we already have an avengers team.
Those who harp.
Oooo! That could make the Moonstars as the Dark Avengers. But, on second thought, that would also make Khelben as Norman Osborn... and I don't think Sage Schend would like that too much. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 02:11:15
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Irennan
Uhm... AFAIK, people complaining about things like that is one of the reasons that led to the 4e Realms (you know, things like ''what's the point of making a character, the super epic party will solve every single problem before me'').
That said, I don't like these kind of things too much. I'm totally fine with having powerful good NPCs (and with having them, even in group, offering aid in the most important battles) but making a super group to face EVERY big threat in the Realms sounds like a bit too much to me.
That's my thinking.
Plus, even without those complaints, there are a lot of problems with trying to implement this.
How is this team first assembled?
It wouldn't be too hard to formulate a Realms-Avengers in a similar fashion to that of the Marvel heroes -- combining to counter a threat that they all couldn't handle separately. Kind of like the mentality of the Harpers, or the Moonstars, I suppose.
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How does the team know where there is something to fight?
Drawing from Marvel's Defenders... they could draw their sense of what and where to fight evil from a powerful arcanist in their midst who monitors the realm via specialised "seeing stones."
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How does the team get there?
Again, drawing from the Defenders, we could have these Realms Avengers setting up base near a well-established and stable network of portals. Or perhaps there is a mage among them who controls powerful planar travel magicks.
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With avatars, Chosen of various deities, high-level wizards and clerics, dragons, liches, and other powerful entities scattered all about the Realms, why is it necessary for there to be a single special response team to deal with odd threats?
The same question could be asked of the Avengers... especially when ultra-powerful folk like the Hulk and Thor can and will defend the Earth on their own.
The simple fact is, as powerful as these avatars, Chosen, and high-level wizards are... they can't be everywhere countering every threat to the public safety of the Realms. Small teams of special response heroes -- perhaps following something like the Fifty-State Avengers Initative that was a result of Marvel's Super-Hero Civil War [in order to restore the public's trust in costumed heroes, each American state would have their own Avengers team sanctioned and registered by the State and Federal governments -- with mandates to tackle any and all threats to their domain].
Perhaps something similar could work in the Realms -- or, perhaps, already does. I'd imagine the Harpers have specialised groups of operatives and agents hidden in most of the Realms most troublesome spots and locales.
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And lastly... What kinds of Realms-specific threats would they respond to, anyway? The Realms doesn't have "we must stop this nastybad to save the world!" plots all that oft...
Agreed.
Just like the Avengers of old... this group would only come together when necessary. They wouldn't stay together, and certainly would adventure across the Realms fighting setting-wide threats on a daily basis. These Realms Avengers would only come together when an RSE threatened the future of the world. |
| Dennis |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 01:40:49
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
So who would be the Fantastic 4?
Elminster
Zalathorm
The Simbul
Aoth Fezim
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| Lord Karsus |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 01:38:34
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
P.S. - it should be obvious to 'comic guys' (like Sage) that I am a big fan of "What If" stories - I wish WotC could get away with those kinds of books. It might even be a good way to usher-in a new edition - if we think we've had it bad, show us a world where things 'went down' much worse (it could even be a way of disarming the grognardise and foiling the anti-detail crowd all at once - make it canon that multiple versions of Toril exist).
-What If? was a really cool series (I liked it too), but I really don't think that What If?: Forgotten Realms would be a very good idea. Without even getting further in depth, theoretical resources spent on 'what if' scenario adventures, novels, articles, sourcebooks, whatever, would be theoretical resources not spent on the Forgotten Realms.
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
So who would be the Fantastic 4?
-The 7 Sisses. |
| Brimstone |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 01:13:17
So who would be the Fantastic 4? |
| Dennis |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 01:09:46
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Morlocks
Ah, yes. Thanks. |
| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 06 May 2012 : 01:07:26
Morlocks |
