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The Sage Posted - 14 Jul 2010 : 01:53:58
Well met

This being another collective scroll of any questions the Scribes and visitors of Candlekeep wish to put to a renowned author of the Realms, namely - Elaine Cunningham, whos works include: Elfshadow, Elfsong, Daughter of the Drow, Tangled Webs, Windwalker and of course Evermeet: Island of Elves, to name but a few.

Present your questions herein and check back to see what news may also come forth from the quill of this author.
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Duneth Despana Posted - 20 Oct 2014 : 20:00:36
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd


Don't want to clutter Elaine's thread to much maybe take further questions to other scroll?


You're right. I'm sorry. http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3803&whichpage=42
ElaineCunningham Posted - 20 Oct 2014 : 19:12:30
quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire

I don't think Elaith will kill you. You are his biggest proponent. Can you confirm or deny the existence of such a compound and give me the source in which it was mentioned? A short story IIRC and not one of my favorite novels, by that I mean not Songs and Swords or the Harpers



Offhand, I don't remember which story mentioned this ring. But yes, I have no doubt that such compounds exists.
ericlboyd Posted - 20 Oct 2014 : 18:52:34
Hi,

Don't want to clutter Elaine's thread to much maybe take further questions to other scroll?

I think the two groups are unrelated other than worshipping Vhaeraun, being active in roughly the same location at different times, and having leaders with similar names.

The Dragons Hoard is active near Trollbridge circa 1361 DR. They move on to skull port. The "shattered" reference in DDGttU is referring to the aftermath of Hurricane Liriel.

Now this me making connections. Savage Frontier says no drow, page 50. The north says Misstyres drow are up by River dessRin in 1369.

FRCS says Clan Auzkovyn arrive circa 1171 DR fight wood lives for 200 years and then leave via portal. There aren't woo doves over by where Misstyres band is.

I would say Misstyres is leader of Clan Auzkovyn in 1369. He lads clAn west say from wood elves, finds a portal, and leave in 1371 DR.

Note also Abey of the Sword write up in F&P.

Eric

quote:
Originally posted by Duneth Despana

Heya, Eric.

Nice catch! I feel a little stupid for not thinking of the difference in dates -_-' ... ;-P

This just makes me even more curious about the link between the two, and also... if not the events of 1361 DR what caused the band to go from 'established' (1369DR) to 'shattered' (1370).

A heartfelt thank you for your answer!


quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

So, by chance, I was literally trying to figure this out this morning.

I note the following: Nisstyre dies in 1361 DR (when Daughter of the Drow is set). Misstyre is mentioned in 1369 DR (when The North is written).

Therefore, despite the similarities, I don't think they can be the same individual unless that was Elaine's intent and there's a deeper story.

--Eric

quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by Duneth Despana

Thank you for such a quick reply ^_^. If not you, could you point me to which writer/designer has authority on the subject?




Unfortunately, I cannot. I have not been writing in the Realms for several years now, and I don't know who's responsible for what these days. You might want to post your question on the WotC community board. It seems likely that game designers and editors check the board from time to time.





Fellfire Posted - 20 Oct 2014 : 18:42:48
I don't think Elaith will kill you. You are his biggest proponent. Can you confirm or deny the existence of such a compound and give me the source in which it was mentioned? A short story IIRC and not one of my favorite novels, by that I mean not Songs and Swords or the Harpers
ElaineCunningham Posted - 20 Oct 2014 : 18:27:56
quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire

I think, Elaine, in one of your novels Elaith had a poison ring that contained a poison specific to elves. Can you tell me what it was, where it can be found, and the effects of it?



I passed your request along to Elaith, who said that he's only too happy to divulge information of this nature to me and I was welcome to pass it along. But then he observed that three people can keep a secret, provided that two of them are 1) dead and 2) their corpses duly warded against Speak With the Dead spells.

So after due consideration, I think I'm going to go with "no" on this one.
Fellfire Posted - 20 Oct 2014 : 18:01:08
I think, Elaine, in one of your novels Elaith had a poison-needle ring that contained a poison specific to elves. Can you tell me what it was, where it can be found, and the effects of it?
Wooly Rupert Posted - 20 Oct 2014 : 17:05:20
I've done a bit of research on lythari, myself, and I was similarly unable to find an origin story for the race. The closest thing I've found is that the skinwalker followers of Rillifane can assume animal form -- but they cannot assume wolf form. That's hardly proof of anything, but I've always assumed there was some connection to the lythari, there.
ElaineCunningham Posted - 20 Oct 2014 : 16:31:32
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas
Hey Elaine, just wondering, some of us have made a somewhat connection between the Ilythiiri and the Lythari because of the similarity of the name and the idea that the original Ilythiiri were kind of wood elfish (figuring the Lythari is a corruption of the original tribal name). I was wondering if you had ever intended for that connection to be made.



Hi, Sleyvas.

I didn't invent either of these sub-races of elves or the names by which they're known, so I wasn't making any connection. To the best of my knowledge--and keep in mind it has been a few years since I delved into elven lore and I don't know what has been published recently--there is no existing "origin story" for the lythari. How they came about, from whom they descended. There's no creation myth, not even the sort of vanilla legends that filter down to humans. And since there was no official origin story, I didn't create one, not even for my own, "back story" purposes. This is a little unusual--most of the time I work with a "tip of the iceberg" approach to shared-world storytelling--but I wanted to keep the lythari mysterious. Even to me.


Duneth Despana Posted - 20 Oct 2014 : 16:17:20
Heya, Eric.

Nice catch! I feel a little stupid for not thinking of the difference in dates -_-' ... ;-P

This just makes me even more curious about the link between the two, and also... if not the events of 1361 DR what caused the band to go from 'established' (1369DR) to 'shattered' (1370).

A heartfelt thank you for your answer!


quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

So, by chance, I was literally trying to figure this out this morning.

I note the following: Nisstyre dies in 1361 DR (when Daughter of the Drow is set). Misstyre is mentioned in 1369 DR (when The North is written).

Therefore, despite the similarities, I don't think they can be the same individual unless that was Elaine's intent and there's a deeper story.

--Eric

quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by Duneth Despana

Thank you for such a quick reply ^_^. If not you, could you point me to which writer/designer has authority on the subject?




Unfortunately, I cannot. I have not been writing in the Realms for several years now, and I don't know who's responsible for what these days. You might want to post your question on the WotC community board. It seems likely that game designers and editors check the board from time to time.



sleyvas Posted - 18 Oct 2014 : 20:12:33
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire

Elaine, I realize that you cannot claim to be an expert on lythari mechanics, however, in my opinion, you grasp their spirit. I would like to ask your opinion regarding the sensitivity of the lythari to silver, wolfsbane and the full moon? I realize that nothing you say in anyway reflects what has already been written, I only wonder what you think.



The lythari are not werewolves, so I see no reason for them to be affected by the usual triggers and banes. In fact, it seems to me that lythari might take up the practice of wearing silver just to make a point. I imagine that the moon cycles would play a large part in their culture, both ritual and practical matters such as hunting, but I don't see the moon forcing a change.

As for wolfsbane, I imagine lythari would have much the same reaction as a human. The plant--also known as monkshood or by its Latin name, aconite--is a deadly poison. Ingesting roots can cause death in a few hours. Just handling the leaves can cause your hands to tingle and burn. Oddly enough, it's in very common use in cottage gardens. In fact, I used to grow a lovely deep blue monkshood in one of my flower gardens, right next to the raspberry patch, but I dug it out when a new family moved in next door with two little girls who were very fond of raspberries.

My point, and I do have one, is that wolfsbane is bad news to more people than werewolves.

That said, there's no real reason to assume that the family of plants referred to as wolfsbane in the Realms is identical to the 200+ varieties of aconite we have in our particular reality. It may be that the wolfsbane of Faerun has other botanical or magical properties, some of which might have either a beneficial or deleterious effect on the lythari. It would be fun, come to think of it, if the lythari could do something completely unexpected and badass with wolfsbane. Alternately, I could see them using it as a suppressant to their lupine nature; for example, suppose there are rare cases of lythari who are team players in elf form but either rogues or violent in wolf form. It would make sense for them to be exiled from the pack, as it were, but remain part of the community while going through life on two feet. Or perhaps someone has difficulty controlling the change, or is going into a situation where control is particularly difficult, such as a battle where changing into wolf form could be deadly. Ingesting or wearing wolfsbane to prevent changing would make a great deal of sense.

Or maybe they dry and smoke wolfsbane for recreational purposes.

What? Too second edition?





Hey Elaine, just wondering, some of us have made a somewhat connection between the Ilythiiri and the Lythari because of the similarity of the name and the idea that the original Ilythiiri were kind of wood elfish (figuring the Lythari is a corruption of the original tribal name). I was wondering if you had ever intended for that connection to be made.
ericlboyd Posted - 18 Oct 2014 : 15:42:10
So, by chance, I was literally trying to figure this out this morning.

I note the following: Nisstyre dies in 1361 DR (when Daughter of the Drow is set). Misstyre is mentioned in 1369 DR (when The North is written).

Therefore, despite the similarities, I don't think they can be the same individual unless that was Elaine's intent and there's a deeper story.

--Eric

quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by Duneth Despana

Thank you for such a quick reply ^_^. If not you, could you point me to which writer/designer has authority on the subject?




Unfortunately, I cannot. I have not been writing in the Realms for several years now, and I don't know who's responsible for what these days. You might want to post your question on the WotC community board. It seems likely that game designers and editors check the board from time to time.

DenverJack Posted - 18 Oct 2014 : 01:35:48
Hello again Elaine. I got my hands on a copy of Dragon #335 and read Game Of Chance - very interesting :-)
You've previously touched on the spell Elaith used to make 'speak with dead' type spells not function, and I was wondering if you had in mind any powers/abilities of Elaith's "special black knife," other than being of dark-elf craftsmanship?
I greatly appreciate anything you'd be willing to share.
Thanks!
ElaineCunningham Posted - 17 Oct 2014 : 13:49:09
quote:
Originally posted by Duneth Despana

Thank you for such a quick reply ^_^. If not you, could you point me to which writer/designer has authority on the subject?




Unfortunately, I cannot. I have not been writing in the Realms for several years now, and I don't know who's responsible for what these days. You might want to post your question on the WotC community board. It seems likely that game designers and editors check the board from time to time.
Duneth Despana Posted - 17 Oct 2014 : 13:08:46
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by Duneth Despana

Heya,
I just created this scroll(http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19667) trying to find more information on Clan Auzkovyn.

Since they were Vhaeraunites like the Dragon's Hoard featured in 'Daughter of the Drow' and the trade organization had an enclave in the High Forest during the time Clan Auzkovyn still inhabited it, I was wondering if you had any thoughts on what relations the two organizations might have had if any, and in general if you could help me in my quest for more lore on the Clan.



Interesting project! Unfortunately, I don't have any addition insights or information for Clan Auzkovyn. It seems very probable that the two groups would be aware of each other and that they would occasionally do business. Since the Dragon's Hoard traded in both Menzoberranzan and Skullport, it would make very good sense for one of the Auzkovyn to infiltrate and travel with the merchant group in order to get information and goods that could help protect and sustain their enclave.



Thank you for such a quick reply ^_^. If not you, could you point me to which writer/designer has authority on the subject?

In my investigation I stumbled upon this bit of realmslore about drow in the High Forest:

'There is an established tribe of approximately 100
Vhaeraun-worshiping drow living at the western fringe of the
High Forest just two days south of the River Dessarin's headwaters
near the Lost Peaks. The tribe is led by a drow merchant
and wizard named Misstyre'(The North Boxed Set)

And I guess that Misstyre and Nisstyre must be the same drow. (Kinda like Phaere~Phaera, Solaufein~Solausein, Xalph~Xalth...). What surprises me is that there were 100 drow in just the High Forest enclave of the Dragon's Hoard. Can you tell me what happened to the different parts of the Dragon's Hoard after Nisstyre and Gorlist's deaths in 1361DR? Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark mentions the merchant band as 'shattered'... Where did all these vhaeraunites go? Thank you in advance once again.
Fellfire Posted - 17 Oct 2014 : 05:54:55
Awesome, Elaine. I will try to smoke some immediately. Feywild, here I come.
ElaineCunningham Posted - 16 Oct 2014 : 20:39:18
quote:
Originally posted by Duneth Despana

Heya,
I just created this scroll(http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19667) trying to find more information on Clan Auzkovyn.

Since they were Vhaeraunites like the Dragon's Hoard featured in 'Daughter of the Drow' and the trade organization had an enclave in the High Forest during the time Clan Auzkovyn still inhabited it, I was wondering if you had any thoughts on what relations the two organizations might have had if any, and in general if you could help me in my quest for more lore on the Clan.



Interesting project! Unfortunately, I don't have any addition insights or information for Clan Auzkovyn. It seems very probable that the two groups would be aware of each other and that they would occasionally do business. Since the Dragon's Hoard traded in both Menzoberranzan and Skullport, it would make very good sense for one of the Auzkovyn to infiltrate and travel with the merchant group in order to get information and goods that could help protect and sustain their enclave.
xaeyruudh Posted - 16 Oct 2014 : 16:03:57
Thanks Elaine, I like your take on the lythari!
Duneth Despana Posted - 16 Oct 2014 : 15:06:36
Heya,
I just created this scroll(http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19667) trying to find more information on Clan Auzkovyn.

Since they were Vhaeraunites like the Dragon's Hoard featured in 'Daughter of the Drow' and the trade organization had an enclave in the High Forest during the time Clan Auzkovyn still inhabited it, I was wondering if you had any thoughts on what relations the two organizations might have had if any, and in general if you could help me in my quest for more lore on the Clan.

Thank you in advance and thanks for your great contribution to the Realms.
ElaineCunningham Posted - 09 Oct 2014 : 12:57:34
quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire

Elaine, I realize that you cannot claim to be an expert on lythari mechanics, however, in my opinion, you grasp their spirit. I would like to ask your opinion regarding the sensitivity of the lythari to silver, wolfsbane and the full moon? I realize that nothing you say in anyway reflects what has already been written, I only wonder what you think.



The lythari are not werewolves, so I see no reason for them to be affected by the usual triggers and banes. In fact, it seems to me that lythari might take up the practice of wearing silver just to make a point. I imagine that the moon cycles would play a large part in their culture, both ritual and practical matters such as hunting, but I don't see the moon forcing a change.

As for wolfsbane, I imagine lythari would have much the same reaction as a human. The plant--also known as monkshood or by its Latin name, aconite--is a deadly poison. Ingesting roots can cause death in a few hours. Just handling the leaves can cause your hands to tingle and burn. Oddly enough, it's in very common use in cottage gardens. In fact, I used to grow a lovely deep blue monkshood in one of my flower gardens, right next to the raspberry patch, but I dug it out when a new family moved in next door with two little girls who were very fond of raspberries.

My point, and I do have one, is that wolfsbane is bad news to more people than werewolves.

That said, there's no real reason to assume that the family of plants referred to as wolfsbane in the Realms is identical to the 200+ varieties of aconite we have in our particular reality. It may be that the wolfsbane of Faerun has other botanical or magical properties, some of which might have either a beneficial or deleterious effect on the lythari. It would be fun, come to think of it, if the lythari could do something completely unexpected and badass with wolfsbane. Alternately, I could see them using it as a suppressant to their lupine nature; for example, suppose there are rare cases of lythari who are team players in elf form but either rogues or violent in wolf form. It would make sense for them to be exiled from the pack, as it were, but remain part of the community while going through life on two feet. Or perhaps someone has difficulty controlling the change, or is going into a situation where control is particularly difficult, such as a battle where changing into wolf form could be deadly. Ingesting or wearing wolfsbane to prevent changing would make a great deal of sense.

Or maybe they dry and smoke wolfsbane for recreational purposes.

What? Too second edition?
Fellfire Posted - 09 Oct 2014 : 02:51:02
Elaine, I realize that you cannot claim to be an expert on lythari mechanics, however, in my opinion, you grasp their spirit. I would like to ask your opinion regarding the sensitivity of the lythari to silver, wolfsbane and the full moon? I realize that nothing you say in anyway reflects what has already been written, I only wonder what you think.
Demzer Posted - 05 Oct 2014 : 10:50:02
Many thanks for your answers!

It may be only your opinion, but it's highly valued in my mind. Your Starlight and Shadows trilogy got me hooked to FR novels after years of sticking to a "game sourcebooks only" dogma.
ElaineCunningham Posted - 04 Oct 2014 : 18:50:10
quote:
Originally posted by Demzer

Mrs Cunningham,

I have a few questions on Sharlarra Vendreth:
- Does she appear anywhere else beside Windwalker and Answered Prayers?


Alas, no.

quote:
- Is she aware of her star elf nature?


Yes.

quote:
--In Windwalker she seems to know she's not a gold elf but doesn't know what exactly she is, in Answered Prayers Liriel's thoughts at the start clearly state the Sharlarra is a star elf so i suppose Sharlarra knows too, 10 years later, how did they discover it?


This story would constitute one of the adventures the three sword-sisters shared over the past ten years. Since this period of their lives hasn't been explored in sanctioned lore, it's probably not a good idea to go into details. And to be perfectly candid, I really haven't worked through the specifics of this adventure, so anything I'd say here would be made up on the spot and probably regretted later, when I came up with a better idea.

quote:
- It may seem the typical trope, to have a character with a misterious past take steps to solve the mistery, but how much is Sharlarra interested in her ancestry? Is she aware of the existence of Sildeyuir? Is she aware of the (present as of early 1370s DR/3E era) nilshai troubles of her people?


Very, yes, and yes.

quote:
- Even if she isn't aware, would she, if made aware, feel any obligation towards the star elves to get her little band of three to the Yuirwood to investigate/help?



Okay, keep in mind that this is MY OPINION ONLY. It does not reflect WotC's plans (or lack thereof.) But yes, it does seem likely that this would be one of the main adventures these elves would share. If I could tell stories about this era, this one would be near the top of my list.
Demzer Posted - 04 Oct 2014 : 16:20:09
Mrs Cunningham,

I have a few questions on Sharlarra Vendreth:
- Is she aware of her star elf nature? In Windwalker she seems to know she's not a gold elf but doesn't know what exactly she is, in Answered Prayers Liriel's thoughts at the start clearly state the Sharlarra is a star elf so i suppose Sharlarra knows too, 10 years later, how did they discover it?
- It may seem the typical trope, to have a character with a misterious past take steps to solve the mistery, but how much is Sharlarra interested in her ancestry? Is she aware of the existence of Sildeyuir? Is she aware of the (present as of early 1370s DR/3E era) nilshai troubles of her people?
- Even if she isn't aware, would she, if made aware, feel any obligation towards the star elves to get her little band of three to the Yuirwood to investigate/help?

Thanks!

EDIT: i found the answer to one of my questions in your previous posts, so i deleted the question
ElaineCunningham Posted - 28 Sep 2014 : 01:42:30
No worries. :)
sleyvas Posted - 27 Sep 2014 : 09:51:31
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

huh, I love that quote of Einstein's. Where'd you find it? I really need to read more about him. I remember someone talking about him an the fact that it was raining, so he took off his hat and put it under his jacket. When asked, he commented that his hair would dry, but his hat would ruin.




Heh. I don't recall where I first heard that quote, but to get the wording right, I Googled "Einstein, everyone's a genius" and it popped up.




well, you set me off on a quest. Great page here.

http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~cheshire/EinsteinQuotes.html

Love this one
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."

Please forgive me for hijacking the thread for a bit.

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