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| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 18 Dec 2008 : 07:45:27
Anyone know where I can find 4e Illusion Spells for Wizards? A link or something would be great! |
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| Diffan |
Posted - 24 Oct 2009 : 21:34:04
quote:
Originally posted by Pandora
Seeing the way the "illusion" powers are described in that link I cant stop thinking that D&D 4e is nothing more than Hero system. Every power at a certain level does exactly the same damage, but you define the "type".
Not entirely.
You see, each power doesn't do exactly the same amount of damage and they typically vary in effects. The powers also vary greatly with what class your playing. A 1st level Fighter Daily power (and mind you there are probably near 10 already) are all different depending on what type of weapon you wield. The weapon difference and the keywords associate with it would probably differ from say, a Paladin 1st level Daily which might have the radiant keyword and other non-destructive effects such as allowing a fellow PC a saving throw, add temporary hit points, or debuff a monster.
quote:
Originally posted by Pandora
Totally balanced and totally boring, just like socialism where everyone is equal too.
Again, not true. Since each role (defender, striker, controller, and leader) all differ from one another, they clearly aren't the same. Their "damage" types and amount vary greatly between the different roles. Within the same role (a wizard & invoker for example) it might be close to damage amount and type, but again the differences are the effects. I found that Invoker powers generally tend to do less damage than wizard powers of equal level but the Invoker powers usually provide a buff to the allies within the attack and the attack only hits the Invoker's enemies. Where as a wizard has to be more precise with his/her attacks so not to injure your friends.
See, I think a big problem for the "Old Guards" is that in previous editons there was a huge power-curve. As a 1st level wizard, you pretty much suck most of the day and have to soley rely on your comrades to keep your butt safe. But as you progress, you gain huge amounts of power and by the end (level 20+) you pretty much out-class everything save the Druid or Cleric. As a figher, well you can swing your sword really really fast by level 20....Yay, way to go and here's a gold star! Yep, power curves are fun for everyone!!! 
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As for Illusion spells, well now that the Arcane Power book has been out for a while, the Illusionist style of wizardry is available and I think it's pretty unique to say the Summoner wizard or War wizard styles. |
| Pandora |
Posted - 19 Dec 2008 : 16:24:27
Seeing the way the "illusion" powers are described in that link I cant stop thinking that D&D 4e is nothing more than Hero system. Every power at a certain level does exactly the same damage, but you define the "type".
Totally balanced and totally boring, just like socialism where everyone is equal too. |
| Lord Karsus |
Posted - 19 Dec 2008 : 15:08:03
-That's how I took it, anyway. *I* could be wrong...But, as we all know, that rarely happens. The only time I've ever been wrong was when that stampede of wild elephants and one baby zebra run though my house between 3:55 and 4:00 PM, on the Fourth of July, in a hailstorm... |
| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 19 Dec 2008 : 07:12:35
quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion
-I believe that was what we call the "Nudge, Nudge, Hint, Hint" allusion.
Ahhhh...well, guess I'll sink yet more time into waiting then.  |
| Lord Karsus |
Posted - 19 Dec 2008 : 06:52:05
-I believe that was what we call the "Nudge, Nudge, Hint, Hint" allusion. |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 19 Dec 2008 : 03:42:59
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden
quote:
Originally posted by EytanBernstein
There just might be a significant assortment of illusion spells in Arcane Power. But then again, there might not be.
That is out already???
Man, I'm so out of touch with 4e!
Thanks Eytan.
Actually, its not out yet. But it is on its way next year. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 19 Dec 2008 : 02:17:21
quote:
Originally posted by EytanBernstein
There just might be a significant assortment of illusion spells in Arcane Power. But then again, there might not be.
They're not there if you disbelieve them.   |
| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 19 Dec 2008 : 01:50:29
quote:
Originally posted by EytanBernstein
There just might be a significant assortment of illusion spells in Arcane Power. But then again, there might not be.
That is out already???
Man, I'm so out of touch with 4e!
Thanks Eytan. |
| EytanBernstein |
Posted - 19 Dec 2008 : 00:43:51
There just might be a significant assortment of illusion spells in Arcane Power. But then again, there might not be. |
| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 18 Dec 2008 : 21:00:15
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Sure! Here ya go!
Thanks all...that is exactly what I was looking for.
Too bad they didn't have anything beyond level 10 though.
One thing I had hoped were that Illusions could be a little bit more than the "shoot 'em up" spells already given...I was wrong.
I DO like the simpleness of the game for certain things; but I think the magic system in this new game is my least liked aspect. |
| Ashe Ravenheart |
Posted - 18 Dec 2008 : 18:16:36
Oh, I should have mentioned it in the link post above. The Illusion 'spells'? They do psychic Damage or buff of some sort. |
| Arion Elenim |
Posted - 18 Dec 2008 : 18:13:42
Man - how long has 4e been out and why are we STILL waiting for basic gameplay info? |
| Ashe Ravenheart |
Posted - 18 Dec 2008 : 18:12:59
Sure! Here ya go! |
| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 18 Dec 2008 : 17:46:32
Someone sent me a private message stating that an electronic edition of Dragon had some illusions in it...
Anyone have a link? |
| Lord Karsus |
Posted - 18 Dec 2008 : 16:16:28
-Yes, one of the problems I've been hearing is that there weren't any Illusion spells, so far. |
| scererar |
Posted - 18 Dec 2008 : 14:46:29
there was a dragon 364: class acts article ,that had an some illusionist type options. |
| Ashe Ravenheart |
Posted - 18 Dec 2008 : 13:39:36
Well, PHB 2 is coming out in March, and Arcane Power is coming out in April. There has been speculation that illusion may be one of the schools of missing magic to be addressed.
Of course, there's also been a lot of speculation on how Illusion spells will work in the combat-ready 4th edition... |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 18 Dec 2008 : 13:28:26
An upcoming product akin to Martial Power mayhaps?? |
