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Alaundo Posted - 26 Jan 2005 : 23:12:26
Well met

This being a collective scroll of any questions the Scribes and visitors of Candlekeep wish to put to a renowned game designer of the Realms, namely - Steven Schend. Steven worked at TSR\WotC from 1990-2000 and has a vast array of products to his name. The top few being: Ruins of Undermountain (editor), City of Splendors (editor/developer/designer), Lands of Intrigue (designer), Cormanthyr/Fall of Myth Drannor (designer) and
Sea of Fallen Stars (designer)

Present your questions herein and check back to see what news may also come forth from the quill of this Realms master.
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Gary Dallison Posted - 31 Jul 2021 : 07:37:12
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

quote:
Originally posted by Gary Dallison

I'll be keeping a close watch on your site from now on. I bet there are all kind of secrets to discover. I particularly liked how you showcased people reusing old magic items from ancient past (most without realising it) so I look forward to more magical secrets



Maybe I'm just dense, but which showcase do you refer to here? The climax of BLACKSTAFF with folks wielding ancient elven or other artifacts and relics without full knowledge?



It was the ancient artefacts and magic items needed for the ritual that had over time been put to use as other things, given different names, or changed for something different. It had never occurred to me that something like that could / would happen and I dont think I'd seen it in realmslore before (although at that point I'd read very few novels).
Steven Schend Posted - 30 Jul 2021 : 22:27:30
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

An FYI for folks…

https://steveneschend.com/2021/07/29/rhymanthiin-redux-introduction/



Ooh, I'm looking forward to this! It's a damn shame that Rhymanthiin got ignored by WotC.



Yes and no. Sad the plots and potentials fell by the wayside, sure, that's a shame.

However, that leaves me lots of wiggle room in which to develop and build Rhymanthiin without as much interference, which I like very much.

Steven
who hopes to maintain a pace of at least one post/article a week minimum to get his writing mojo revived more regularly…and then collecting and curating all the info into something saleable…
Steven Schend Posted - 30 Jul 2021 : 22:24:28
quote:
Originally posted by Gary Dallison

I'll be keeping a close watch on your site from now on. I bet there are all kind of secrets to discover. I particularly liked how you showcased people reusing old magic items from ancient past (most without realising it) so I look forward to more magical secrets



Maybe I'm just dense, but which showcase do you refer to here? The climax of BLACKSTAFF with folks wielding ancient elven or other artifacts and relics without full knowledge?
Steven Schend Posted - 30 Jul 2021 : 22:21:31
quote:
Originally posted by Kyrene

Hi Steven,

I presume the terms in Calimport like "drudach" or "sabban" are the Alzhedo words used to describe the terms, can you confirm? Also, two words that have been bugging me since 2010 (seeing them in a 2005 So saith Ed) are "yshah" and "ynamalik." The FR wiki lists them as Alzhedo words meaning "duke" and "lesser" prince" citing Empires of the Shining Sea as the source. Is this correct?



Correct on all counts; they're Alzhedo words but some of the words have become standard nomenclature across all the Lands of Intrigue, the Shining Sea lands, and many places where Calmishan held sway (or at least had vested economic influence) once upon a time.

And those titles are both Alzhedo but the words translate mildly differently but the relative rank of said titles holds true and is a better definition/belwether for folks more used to Western European titles.

Steven
Kyrene Posted - 30 Jul 2021 : 17:23:14
Hi Steven,

I presume the terms in Calimport like "drudach" or "sabban" are the Alzhedo words used to describe the terms, can you confirm? Also, two words that have been bugging me since 2010 (seeing them in a 2005 So saith Ed) are "yshah" and "ynamalik." The FR wiki lists them as Alzhedo words meaning "duke" and "lesser" prince" citing Empires of the Shining Sea as the source. Is this correct?
Wooly Rupert Posted - 30 Jul 2021 : 02:25:06
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

An FYI for folks…

https://steveneschend.com/2021/07/29/rhymanthiin-redux-introduction/



Ooh, I'm looking forward to this! It's a damn shame that Rhymanthiin got ignored by WotC.
Gary Dallison Posted - 29 Jul 2021 : 21:45:16
I'll be keeping a close watch on your site from now on. I bet there are all kind of secrets to discover. I particularly liked how you showcased people reusing old magic items from ancient past (most without realising it) so I look forward to more magical secrets
Steven Schend Posted - 29 Jul 2021 : 21:06:30
An FYI for folks…

https://steveneschend.com/2021/07/29/rhymanthiin-redux-introduction/
sleyvas Posted - 29 Jul 2021 : 20:06:06
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Just curious, as the question popped up over on Twitter, but would anyone be interested enough in more undersea setting info from me? Thinking I could expand the shalarin and other things within the western seas and perhaps even spice up things around Maztica if there'd be interest...

SES
who's peeking in every so often but trying to keep to paying work at present



Yeah, I'd love to see some stuff on the place where the Shalarin came from (besides the stuff that was put in a dragon article). I'd actually really like to see WHERE it's located at least in general. Seethyr and I had been talking about some of that (him more than me), and possibly including the nawidnehr (a sharkwere) and Anguilians from Sea Devils near Anchorome. He implemented some of it in his MZA6 Voyage to the True World on DM's Guild, which was a ship based adventure going from Faerun to Maztica.

We had also been talking about having a land connection between Lopango and Katashaka that may have sank, but its people "saved" by being transformed by the gods (translation, Phillip wanted some octopus bottomed merfolk in the ocean between the two continents).
Asharak Posted - 29 Jul 2021 : 17:29:48
Very interested...
Gary Dallison Posted - 29 Jul 2021 : 15:49:31
Always interested in more lore from the lore masters. I'm a big fan of the shalarin, itd be nice to get more stuff kn their origins.

Interestingly enough Eric was asking for all known locations in the trackless sea and sea of swords etc. In case you wanted to do a super powered team up.
Steven Schend Posted - 29 Jul 2021 : 15:31:42
Just curious, as the question popped up over on Twitter, but would anyone be interested enough in more undersea setting info from me? Thinking I could expand the shalarin and other things within the western seas and perhaps even spice up things around Maztica if there'd be interest...

SES
who's peeking in every so often but trying to keep to paying work at present
George Krashos Posted - 10 Dec 2020 : 23:04:55
quote:
Originally posted by Duneth Despana

Hi,
I'm struggling a little to situate where Stornanter would have been. Thank you in advance.



It's location is described in the Seven Sisters accessory as being "around Luskan", nut it stretched down the coast and actually had Port Llast as its capital.

-- George Krashos
Duneth Despana Posted - 10 Dec 2020 : 21:57:06
Hi,
I'm struggling a little to situate where Stornanter would have been. Thank you in advance.
Gary Dallison Posted - 07 Sep 2020 : 19:05:00
Interesting, i was going to ask what would predate the genies in Calimshan but it would appear you have answered it at least in part. Goblinoids, and of course elves.

Ta muchly. I will have to investigate everything Calimshan and see what i can find that could tie it all together.
Steven Schend Posted - 07 Sep 2020 : 17:31:17
quote:
Originally posted by Gary Dallison

Hi Steven,

Just came across the Myth of Four Rivers in Empires of the Shining Sea and wanted to know your thoughts (if you can remember them) when creating that piece.

Is it a deliberately corrupted tale (ie the faithful of achanatyr twisted an existing myth or parable type tale and made it about the Dark Three plus one as an insult to show that the damage they inflicted in their quest for power failed to break calimshan (the people or nation).

I get the feeling that the original myth was about genies (could be calim, the ferret lord and ajhuu or it could be a number of other genies) that warred with one another or warred with some greater evil in the mountains and broke that mountain and led to the flooding of the spider swamp.





I'd say it's a very safe bet that the church of Achanatyr definitely spun things to their benefit and the detriment of their enemies (as do most politicians, clergy, and any group with influence seeking to retain their power).

As its sole surviving copy has long been held by the church of Bane, I'd seriously doubt any of its alleged truths as presented by them. Treat it as Banite apocrypha if anything, given the lengths to which they've hidden it.

That said, the myth probably had local folktale variants of it attributed to the genies after that fact (rather than the other way around you suggest). Remember that it's stated that the myth predated the genies' arrival in what would become Calimshan. So it could have variant forms among the native goblin tribes as well as other sapients.

SES

Gary Dallison Posted - 04 Sep 2020 : 07:09:40
Hi Steven,

Just came across the Myth of Four Rivers in Empires of the Shining Sea and wanted to know your thoughts (if you can remember them) when creating that piece.

Is it a deliberately corrupted tale (ie the faithful of achanatyr twisted an existing myth or parable type tale and made it about the Dark Three plus one as an insult to show that the damage they inflicted in their quest for power failed to break calimshan (the people or nation).

I get the feeling that the original myth was about genies (could be calim, the ferret lord and ajhuu or it could be a number of other genies) that warred with one another or warred with some greater evil in the mountains and broke that mountain and led to the flooding of the spider swamp.

Lhynard Posted - 24 May 2020 : 02:11:08
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard

Yet another family tree question for Schend (likely to be answered by Krashos ).

I built this detailed family tree of Clan Ithal of Tethyr today:
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ithal

My question is about one missing queen.

Page 24 of the "Erlkazar & Folk of Intrigue" booklet from the Lands of Intrigue boxed set states that the lich Priamon has the "1,530-year-old bridal crown of Queen Arial of the Ithal Dynasty." The boxed set is set in 1370 DR, so this means that the crown was from around #8722;160. This means that it was made during the reign of King Silvam. However, Silvam's queen was Alcina. This means that it must have been the bridal crown of one of the following kings. (Perhaps it was one of Alcina's crowns given to the new queen as a gift?)

In any case, whose bride was Arial? It would have to be Nishan or Garynor, because Garynor II never reigned, and Nishan II married Arhymeria, and then the dynasty fell.



Unless George found another timeline snafu, I'd say that Arial was Nishan's bride and mother to twins Garynor and Rhynda. It would have easily been forged/crafted during Silvam's reign as Arial and Nishan married before ascending to the throne (and the crown is only referred to as Queen Arial's crown because of her most famous title/role).

Steven



Ahh Steven, you've still got it. Your Clan Ithal notes confirm that she was indeed Nishan's bride and originally from Clan Fyrson. As always, I bow to your superior Realms-fu.

-- George Krashos



Thanks, both! I am super excited that my guesses were correct. And you also gave me an extra bonus by giving me her clan. I am writing what wiki articles I can for all of those too.

I'm sure I'll have lots more questions as I continue to try to milk out all the details of the First Age of Tethyr as I can. It is so sad that all of this information did not make it into the sourcebooks.
George Krashos Posted - 24 May 2020 : 01:17:46
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard

Yet another family tree question for Schend (likely to be answered by Krashos ).

I built this detailed family tree of Clan Ithal of Tethyr today:
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ithal

My question is about one missing queen.

Page 24 of the "Erlkazar & Folk of Intrigue" booklet from the Lands of Intrigue boxed set states that the lich Priamon has the "1,530-year-old bridal crown of Queen Arial of the Ithal Dynasty." The boxed set is set in 1370 DR, so this means that the crown was from around #8722;160. This means that it was made during the reign of King Silvam. However, Silvam's queen was Alcina. This means that it must have been the bridal crown of one of the following kings. (Perhaps it was one of Alcina's crowns given to the new queen as a gift?)

In any case, whose bride was Arial? It would have to be Nishan or Garynor, because Garynor II never reigned, and Nishan II married Arhymeria, and then the dynasty fell.



Unless George found another timeline snafu, I'd say that Arial was Nishan's bride and mother to twins Garynor and Rhynda. It would have easily been forged/crafted during Silvam's reign as Arial and Nishan married before ascending to the throne (and the crown is only referred to as Queen Arial's crown because of her most famous title/role).

Steven



Ahh Steven, you've still got it. Your Clan Ithal notes confirm that she was indeed Nishan's bride and originally from Clan Fyrson. As always, I bow to your superior Realms-fu.

-- George Krashos
Kentinal Posted - 22 May 2020 : 21:38:40
This sounds like sense. A bridal crown certainly could be given before becoming Queen. It is hard to be born a Queen after all. Most cases one inherits from someone living at the time after they are born. Sometimes years or decades pass before an heir becomes ruler (or even titled).
There could be examples of being born King or Queen though. Depending on treaties and laws of realms.
Steven Schend Posted - 22 May 2020 : 20:38:42
quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard

Yet another family tree question for Schend (likely to be answered by Krashos ).

I built this detailed family tree of Clan Ithal of Tethyr today:
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ithal

My question is about one missing queen.

Page 24 of the "Erlkazar & Folk of Intrigue" booklet from the Lands of Intrigue boxed set states that the lich Priamon has the "1,530-year-old bridal crown of Queen Arial of the Ithal Dynasty." The boxed set is set in 1370 DR, so this means that the crown was from around #8722;160. This means that it was made during the reign of King Silvam. However, Silvam's queen was Alcina. This means that it must have been the bridal crown of one of the following kings. (Perhaps it was one of Alcina's crowns given to the new queen as a gift?)

In any case, whose bride was Arial? It would have to be Nishan or Garynor, because Garynor II never reigned, and Nishan II married Arhymeria, and then the dynasty fell.



Unless George found another timeline snafu, I'd say that Arial was Nishan's bride and mother to twins Garynor and Rhynda. It would have easily been forged/crafted during Silvam's reign as Arial and Nishan married before ascending to the throne (and the crown is only referred to as Queen Arial's crown because of her most famous title/role).

Steven
Steven Schend Posted - 22 May 2020 : 20:32:00
quote:
Originally posted by Gelcur

Not sure if Steven still checks in but I'll leave this question here because I'm pretty sure it is related to his work on Blackstaff Tower.

When the Spellplague merged Nameless and Raergar into Nameless Haunt where was the location that this happened? All I seem to find is that it was on the east side of Mount Waterdeep and that it left a cat head shaped mark on the cobbles there. I'm guessing it would likely be "near" Blackstaff Tower. Using the old Waterdeep City of Splendors Map from TSR1109 I can see there aren't that many cobbled location near the Mount Waterdeep. Maybe Fetlock Court or Turnback Court?

Well if anyone can answer would be great, thinking of using the location as part of a quest.



That was meant to put a new landmark/place of interest somewhere on the expanded and changed Mount Waterdeep that had a whole other neighborhood up thereabouts. I've never gotten around to checking 4E sources (or 5E sources for that matter) as to where and how they shifted things when they messed up the City.

In any case, placing it around/near Turnback Court works well, ayup.

Steven the very late
Lhynard Posted - 09 May 2020 : 20:58:22
Yet another family tree question for Schend (likely to be answered by Krashos ).

I built this detailed family tree of Clan Ithal of Tethyr today:
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ithal

My question is about one missing queen.

Page 24 of the "Erlkazar & Folk of Intrigue" booklet from the Lands of Intrigue boxed set states that the lich Priamon has the "1,530-year-old bridal crown of Queen Arial of the Ithal Dynasty." The boxed set is set in 1370 DR, so this means that the crown was from around −160. This means that it was made during the reign of King Silvam. However, Silvam's queen was Alcina. This means that it must have been the bridal crown of one of the following kings. (Perhaps it was one of Alcina's crowns given to the new queen as a gift?)

In any case, whose bride was Arial? It would have to be Nishan or Garynor, because Garynor II never reigned, and Nishan II married Arhymeria, and then the dynasty fell.
Lhynard Posted - 18 Mar 2020 : 01:24:25
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Yes, I think the "now" is the problem here. Clearly the Seven Satraps rule from 1368 DR but disappear (for whatever reason) in 1370 DR allowing Vatarn to take control. At least that's how I would read it to mean.

-- George Krashos



thanks for the reply!
George Krashos Posted - 15 Mar 2020 : 13:04:38
Yes, I think the "now" is the problem here. Clearly the Seven Satraps rule from 1368 DR but disappear (for whatever reason) in 1370 DR allowing Vatarn to take control. At least that's how I would read it to mean.

-- George Krashos

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