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Alaundo Posted - 26 Jan 2005 : 23:12:26
Well met

This being a collective scroll of any questions the Scribes and visitors of Candlekeep wish to put to a renowned game designer of the Realms, namely - Steven Schend. Steven worked at TSR\WotC from 1990-2000 and has a vast array of products to his name. The top few being: Ruins of Undermountain (editor), City of Splendors (editor/developer/designer), Lands of Intrigue (designer), Cormanthyr/Fall of Myth Drannor (designer) and
Sea of Fallen Stars (designer)

Present your questions herein and check back to see what news may also come forth from the quill of this Realms master.
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Gary Dallison Posted - 07 Sep 2020 : 19:05:00
Interesting, i was going to ask what would predate the genies in Calimshan but it would appear you have answered it at least in part. Goblinoids, and of course elves.

Ta muchly. I will have to investigate everything Calimshan and see what i can find that could tie it all together.
Steven Schend Posted - 07 Sep 2020 : 17:31:17
quote:
Originally posted by Gary Dallison

Hi Steven,

Just came across the Myth of Four Rivers in Empires of the Shining Sea and wanted to know your thoughts (if you can remember them) when creating that piece.

Is it a deliberately corrupted tale (ie the faithful of achanatyr twisted an existing myth or parable type tale and made it about the Dark Three plus one as an insult to show that the damage they inflicted in their quest for power failed to break calimshan (the people or nation).

I get the feeling that the original myth was about genies (could be calim, the ferret lord and ajhuu or it could be a number of other genies) that warred with one another or warred with some greater evil in the mountains and broke that mountain and led to the flooding of the spider swamp.





I'd say it's a very safe bet that the church of Achanatyr definitely spun things to their benefit and the detriment of their enemies (as do most politicians, clergy, and any group with influence seeking to retain their power).

As its sole surviving copy has long been held by the church of Bane, I'd seriously doubt any of its alleged truths as presented by them. Treat it as Banite apocrypha if anything, given the lengths to which they've hidden it.

That said, the myth probably had local folktale variants of it attributed to the genies after that fact (rather than the other way around you suggest). Remember that it's stated that the myth predated the genies' arrival in what would become Calimshan. So it could have variant forms among the native goblin tribes as well as other sapients.

SES

Gary Dallison Posted - 04 Sep 2020 : 07:09:40
Hi Steven,

Just came across the Myth of Four Rivers in Empires of the Shining Sea and wanted to know your thoughts (if you can remember them) when creating that piece.

Is it a deliberately corrupted tale (ie the faithful of achanatyr twisted an existing myth or parable type tale and made it about the Dark Three plus one as an insult to show that the damage they inflicted in their quest for power failed to break calimshan (the people or nation).

I get the feeling that the original myth was about genies (could be calim, the ferret lord and ajhuu or it could be a number of other genies) that warred with one another or warred with some greater evil in the mountains and broke that mountain and led to the flooding of the spider swamp.

Lhynard Posted - 24 May 2020 : 02:11:08
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard

Yet another family tree question for Schend (likely to be answered by Krashos ).

I built this detailed family tree of Clan Ithal of Tethyr today:
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ithal

My question is about one missing queen.

Page 24 of the "Erlkazar & Folk of Intrigue" booklet from the Lands of Intrigue boxed set states that the lich Priamon has the "1,530-year-old bridal crown of Queen Arial of the Ithal Dynasty." The boxed set is set in 1370 DR, so this means that the crown was from around #8722;160. This means that it was made during the reign of King Silvam. However, Silvam's queen was Alcina. This means that it must have been the bridal crown of one of the following kings. (Perhaps it was one of Alcina's crowns given to the new queen as a gift?)

In any case, whose bride was Arial? It would have to be Nishan or Garynor, because Garynor II never reigned, and Nishan II married Arhymeria, and then the dynasty fell.



Unless George found another timeline snafu, I'd say that Arial was Nishan's bride and mother to twins Garynor and Rhynda. It would have easily been forged/crafted during Silvam's reign as Arial and Nishan married before ascending to the throne (and the crown is only referred to as Queen Arial's crown because of her most famous title/role).

Steven



Ahh Steven, you've still got it. Your Clan Ithal notes confirm that she was indeed Nishan's bride and originally from Clan Fyrson. As always, I bow to your superior Realms-fu.

-- George Krashos



Thanks, both! I am super excited that my guesses were correct. And you also gave me an extra bonus by giving me her clan. I am writing what wiki articles I can for all of those too.

I'm sure I'll have lots more questions as I continue to try to milk out all the details of the First Age of Tethyr as I can. It is so sad that all of this information did not make it into the sourcebooks.
George Krashos Posted - 24 May 2020 : 01:17:46
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard

Yet another family tree question for Schend (likely to be answered by Krashos ).

I built this detailed family tree of Clan Ithal of Tethyr today:
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ithal

My question is about one missing queen.

Page 24 of the "Erlkazar & Folk of Intrigue" booklet from the Lands of Intrigue boxed set states that the lich Priamon has the "1,530-year-old bridal crown of Queen Arial of the Ithal Dynasty." The boxed set is set in 1370 DR, so this means that the crown was from around #8722;160. This means that it was made during the reign of King Silvam. However, Silvam's queen was Alcina. This means that it must have been the bridal crown of one of the following kings. (Perhaps it was one of Alcina's crowns given to the new queen as a gift?)

In any case, whose bride was Arial? It would have to be Nishan or Garynor, because Garynor II never reigned, and Nishan II married Arhymeria, and then the dynasty fell.



Unless George found another timeline snafu, I'd say that Arial was Nishan's bride and mother to twins Garynor and Rhynda. It would have easily been forged/crafted during Silvam's reign as Arial and Nishan married before ascending to the throne (and the crown is only referred to as Queen Arial's crown because of her most famous title/role).

Steven



Ahh Steven, you've still got it. Your Clan Ithal notes confirm that she was indeed Nishan's bride and originally from Clan Fyrson. As always, I bow to your superior Realms-fu.

-- George Krashos
Kentinal Posted - 22 May 2020 : 21:38:40
This sounds like sense. A bridal crown certainly could be given before becoming Queen. It is hard to be born a Queen after all. Most cases one inherits from someone living at the time after they are born. Sometimes years or decades pass before an heir becomes ruler (or even titled).
There could be examples of being born King or Queen though. Depending on treaties and laws of realms.
Steven Schend Posted - 22 May 2020 : 20:38:42
quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard

Yet another family tree question for Schend (likely to be answered by Krashos ).

I built this detailed family tree of Clan Ithal of Tethyr today:
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ithal

My question is about one missing queen.

Page 24 of the "Erlkazar & Folk of Intrigue" booklet from the Lands of Intrigue boxed set states that the lich Priamon has the "1,530-year-old bridal crown of Queen Arial of the Ithal Dynasty." The boxed set is set in 1370 DR, so this means that the crown was from around #8722;160. This means that it was made during the reign of King Silvam. However, Silvam's queen was Alcina. This means that it must have been the bridal crown of one of the following kings. (Perhaps it was one of Alcina's crowns given to the new queen as a gift?)

In any case, whose bride was Arial? It would have to be Nishan or Garynor, because Garynor II never reigned, and Nishan II married Arhymeria, and then the dynasty fell.



Unless George found another timeline snafu, I'd say that Arial was Nishan's bride and mother to twins Garynor and Rhynda. It would have easily been forged/crafted during Silvam's reign as Arial and Nishan married before ascending to the throne (and the crown is only referred to as Queen Arial's crown because of her most famous title/role).

Steven
Steven Schend Posted - 22 May 2020 : 20:32:00
quote:
Originally posted by Gelcur

Not sure if Steven still checks in but I'll leave this question here because I'm pretty sure it is related to his work on Blackstaff Tower.

When the Spellplague merged Nameless and Raergar into Nameless Haunt where was the location that this happened? All I seem to find is that it was on the east side of Mount Waterdeep and that it left a cat head shaped mark on the cobbles there. I'm guessing it would likely be "near" Blackstaff Tower. Using the old Waterdeep City of Splendors Map from TSR1109 I can see there aren't that many cobbled location near the Mount Waterdeep. Maybe Fetlock Court or Turnback Court?

Well if anyone can answer would be great, thinking of using the location as part of a quest.



That was meant to put a new landmark/place of interest somewhere on the expanded and changed Mount Waterdeep that had a whole other neighborhood up thereabouts. I've never gotten around to checking 4E sources (or 5E sources for that matter) as to where and how they shifted things when they messed up the City.

In any case, placing it around/near Turnback Court works well, ayup.

Steven the very late
Lhynard Posted - 09 May 2020 : 20:58:22
Yet another family tree question for Schend (likely to be answered by Krashos ).

I built this detailed family tree of Clan Ithal of Tethyr today:
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ithal

My question is about one missing queen.

Page 24 of the "Erlkazar & Folk of Intrigue" booklet from the Lands of Intrigue boxed set states that the lich Priamon has the "1,530-year-old bridal crown of Queen Arial of the Ithal Dynasty." The boxed set is set in 1370 DR, so this means that the crown was from around −160. This means that it was made during the reign of King Silvam. However, Silvam's queen was Alcina. This means that it must have been the bridal crown of one of the following kings. (Perhaps it was one of Alcina's crowns given to the new queen as a gift?)

In any case, whose bride was Arial? It would have to be Nishan or Garynor, because Garynor II never reigned, and Nishan II married Arhymeria, and then the dynasty fell.
Lhynard Posted - 18 Mar 2020 : 01:24:25
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Yes, I think the "now" is the problem here. Clearly the Seven Satraps rule from 1368 DR but disappear (for whatever reason) in 1370 DR allowing Vatarn to take control. At least that's how I would read it to mean.

-- George Krashos



thanks for the reply!
George Krashos Posted - 15 Mar 2020 : 13:04:38
Yes, I think the "now" is the problem here. Clearly the Seven Satraps rule from 1368 DR but disappear (for whatever reason) in 1370 DR allowing Vatarn to take control. At least that's how I would read it to mean.

-- George Krashos
Lhynard Posted - 14 Mar 2020 : 22:20:42
There seems to be a lore conflict in Empires of the Shining Sea regarding who rules the city of Schamedar in 1370 DR.

After the Living Gem War ends in 1368, the syl-pasha is said to have established the victorious Seven Satraps as the rulers, and p. 39 gives three of their names and claims that they serve El Kahmir. The text claims that they "now" rule in 1370 DR.

However, the section actually detailing Schamedar on p. 116 claims that the Syl-Vizar in 1370 DR is an elf named Vatarn Wahrim and that he was chosen by the people a few tendays after the Council of Vizars disappeared. He selects a new Council, and the name of one additional Council member is given.

The original council disappeared as a result of Shond Tharovin in 1367. The only way that I can reconcile this conflict is if I ignore the "now" on p. 39 and assume that the disappeared Council in the Schamedar description on p. 116 refers not to those killed or exiled by Shond but rather to the Seven Satraps.

In other words, did Schend intend for the first Council to be removed by Shond in 1367, to be replaced by the Seven Satraps in 1368, and then to be replaced in 1370 again by a new council? Or was this a mistake on his part in forgetting who he claimed was in charge between the two sections of the book?

Gelcur Posted - 05 Jan 2019 : 22:07:30
Not sure if Steven still checks in but I'll leave this question here because I'm pretty sure it is related to his work on Blackstaff Tower.

When the Spellplague merged Nameless and Raergar into Nameless Haunt where was the location that this happened? All I seem to find is that it was on the east side of Mount Waterdeep and that it left a cat head shaped mark on the cobbles there. I'm guessing it would likely be "near" Blackstaff Tower. Using the old Waterdeep City of Splendors Map from TSR1109 I can see there aren't that many cobbled location near the Mount Waterdeep. Maybe Fetlock Court or Turnback Court?

Well if anyone can answer would be great, thinking of using the location as part of a quest.
Lhynard Posted - 18 Aug 2018 : 23:08:08
I picked up Star of Cursrah, (which was such a terrible read, though it had some great plot ideas,) and the main character is part of el Kahmir crime family that Steven created. Did Steven by chance make a list of the members of this family too? Because I am finding some of what was published confusing.

Here is what I have researched:
  • El Wednazel Nur yn Jafar el Kahmir is the head of the family in 1370 DR. He is from Manshaka but rules from Calimport.
    • One of his sons is Khamas yn Nur el Kahmir, who lives in Manshaka. (I assume that "yn Kur" is a typo in Empires of the Shining Sea.)
      • Khamas' son is El Zelyn Faruk yn Khamas el Kahmir, who is in Calimport. (I assume that, when EotSS calls him son of the leader of spies in Calimport, it really means grandson.)
    • Another son of El Wednazel is Jhiavor el Kahmir, but we are told nothing else of him.
      • Jhiavor's son is Tomuk yn Jhiavor el Khamir, according to Calimport, who rules the Palace Ward of Calimport. He is also called the second grandson of El Wednazel.
My current (very simple and limited) family tree is here:
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/El_Kahmir

The problem I have is with the character of Butak yn Butak el Kahmir, who is called the "first son" of El Kahmir. "El Kahmir" seems to be used in his description to refer to El Wednazel as opposed to the family as a whole, and it includes also the fact that others feared his father's power. If Butak is actually the firstborn son of Nur, why is his father given as (also) Butak?


Somewhat related question: Ralbahr Halus el Duramij, Rahim el Ornadas, Basad el Ostak, and Ottad el Ostak (all from Memnon) are all said to be members of the El Kahmir family, yet none of them have the Kahmir surname. Are they just considered a part of the broader crime family by oath or something?
Nicolai Withander Posted - 31 Jul 2018 : 17:49:02
Hi Steven

So we have picked up our old D&D campaign, which means revisiting some old high level characters. Now this also means going after The Grandstaff, which I believe you were the creator/ author of!

I was wondering, if you perhaps could shed some light on its powers?

Now we have the description, but we need the powers. We have had some debate around our level 30+ table about how powerful, the arguable most powerful staff in realmspace (and possible beyond) is, and we would love some insights on it! Anything at all on this epic artifact would be really great, but we would especially love to know some of its power!!!

Thank you!
Lhynard Posted - 27 Apr 2018 : 23:01:13
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard

  • Ralan's much younger brother Nasim, the "Dark Caleph", was married to a woman named Nureh. Nureh's mother was named Catahra (EotSS, p116). Does this imply that Nureh was both daughter-in-law and daughter to Ralan?


  • Its late here so if I made a mistake forgive me, but it would seem that if its the same Catahra, that it would be his Daughter and sister-in-law, which would mean Nasim married his niece (no big deal in either the Realms or in 'Ye olden times').



    Ha ha, right, of course. Oops!
    Lhynard Posted - 27 Apr 2018 : 23:00:03
    quote:
    Originally posted by Demzer

    quote:
    Originally posted by Markustay

    quote:
    Originally posted by Lhynard

  • Ralan's much younger brother Nasim, the "Dark Caleph", was married to a woman named Nureh. Nureh's mother was named Catahra (EotSS, p116). Does this imply that Nureh was both daughter-in-law and daughter to Ralan?


  • Its late here so if I made a mistake forgive me, but it would seem that if its the same Catahra, that it would be his Daughter and sister-in-law, which would mean Nasim married his niece (no big deal in either the Realms or in 'Ye olden times').



    Going by the list George posted there are no Nureh or unnamed daughters of Catahra so it's probably a different Catahra.



    Yes, very true. :)
    Lhynard Posted - 27 Apr 2018 : 22:58:23
    quote:
    Originally posted by George Krashos
    This info is superfluous to the EotSS project but indicative of Steven's skill, creativity and drive.

    Ralan's children and their mothers in order are:

    ...

    I note that the numbers don't quite add up but these are Ralan's living children - it is likely that there are several deceased. You also have to understand that these were fragmentary, work in progress notes. Steve had a lot of those on his projects.

    As for the extended family, no details on family connections.

    -- George Krashos



    Once again, thank you so much for this! This is wonderful and better than I had hoped. It doesn't answer all of my questions, but it is a huge help. I'll post a link to the final family tree when I finish it, if you or anyone are curious how it comes out.
    Demzer Posted - 08 Apr 2018 : 13:13:26
    quote:
    Originally posted by Markustay

    quote:
    Originally posted by Lhynard

  • Ralan's much younger brother Nasim, the "Dark Caleph", was married to a woman named Nureh. Nureh's mother was named Catahra (EotSS, p116). Does this imply that Nureh was both daughter-in-law and daughter to Ralan?


  • Its late here so if I made a mistake forgive me, but it would seem that if its the same Catahra, that it would be his Daughter and sister-in-law, which would mean Nasim married his niece (no big deal in either the Realms or in 'Ye olden times').



    Going by the list George posted there are no Nureh or unnamed daughters of Catahra so it's probably a different Catahra.
    Markustay Posted - 08 Apr 2018 : 08:50:29
    quote:
    Originally posted by Lhynard

  • Ralan's much younger brother Nasim, the "Dark Caleph", was married to a woman named Nureh. Nureh's mother was named Catahra (EotSS, p116). Does this imply that Nureh was both daughter-in-law and daughter to Ralan?


  • Its late here so if I made a mistake forgive me, but it would seem that if its the same Catahra, that it would be his Daughter and sister-in-law, which would mean Nasim married his niece (no big deal in either the Realms or in 'Ye olden times').
    George Krashos Posted - 08 Apr 2018 : 03:50:13
    quote:
    Originally posted by Lhynard

    I also have questions about an entirely different family, the Pesarkals. I know from p. 65 of ''Empires of the Shining Sea'' that Ralan had at least 21 sons! Do Steven's notes answer any of the following questions:

    • Ralan el Pesarkhal had two wives (EotSS, p74) named Catahra (EotSS, p101) and Oma (EotSS, p108). Who was the mother of each of his sons Fahd, Tahyr, Harun, Tamal, and Faruk?

    • Ralan's much younger brother Nasim, the "Dark Caleph", was married to a woman named Nureh. Nureh's mother was named Catahra (EotSS, p116). Does this imply that Nureh was both daughter-in-law and daughter to Ralan?

    • Fatima was Ralan's oldest daughter. Was she older or younger than Fahd and Tahyr?

    • Where do his daughters Saida and Kadila fall in the birth order?

    • Were his nephews Asraf and Kadar sons of Nasim or another unnamed brother or sister? Were they older or younger than Maham and Nasim the Younger?


    You can see what I have started here:
    http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/User:Lhynard/Projects/Family_Tree_Project#In_Progress



    This info is superfluous to the EotSS project but indicative of Steven's skill, creativity and drive.

    Ralan's children and their mothers in order are:

    Fahd (Catahra)
    Fatima (Catahra) [daughter - married off to the Galsah family]
    Tahyr (Catahra)
    Kaelis (Catahra)
    {Unnamed} (Catahra)
    {Unnamed} (Fadila - jhasina)
    Harun (Fadila - jhasina)
    {Unnamed} (Fadila - jhasina)
    {Unnamed} (Symari)
    {Unnamed} (Zahra - jhasina)
    {Unnamed) (Symari) [daughter]
    {Unnamed} (Zahra - jhasina) [daughter]
    {Unnamed} (Zahra - jhasina)
    Raqiil (Symari) [daughter - married off to the Khomaya family]
    Jafar (Leysaya - jhasina)
    Saida (Oma - jhasina) [daughter - married off to the Synabbat family]
    Aden (Symari)
    {Unnamed} (Symari) [daughter]
    Nur (Leysaya - jhasina)
    {Unnamed} (Abiriel - jhasina) [daughter]
    Faruk (Symari)
    Oma (Symari) [daughter]
    {Unnamed} (Abiriel - jhasina)
    {Unnamed} (Abiriel - jhasina) [daughter]
    {Unnamed} (Symari)
    {Unnamed} (Abiriel - jhasina)
    {Unnamed} (Nada - jhasina) [daughter]
    {Unnamed} (Nada - jhasina)
    {Unnamed} (Adiva - jhasina) [daughter]
    {Unnamed} (Malira - jhasina)

    I note that the numbers don't quite add up but these are Ralan's living children - it is likely that there are several deceased. You also have to understand that these were fragmentary, work in progress notes. Steve had a lot of those on his projects.

    As for the extended family, no details on family connections.

    -- George Krashos
    George Krashos Posted - 08 Apr 2018 : 02:56:49
    quote:
    Originally posted by Lhynard

    quote:
    Originally posted by George Krashos
    I wasn't aware of the reference in the Backdrop: Cormyr article (and note that I'm working off Steven Schend's Tethyr notes, not Brian Cortijo's Cormyr notes which Brian James likely had access to).

    I note also that the novel "The Fanged Crown" appears to deal with the Tethyr royal family and the line of succession. I don't have that book (have just ordered a copy) but I suspect that it will put a significant monkey wrench into the Tethyr lore I have provided here and the Tethyr lineage I have will need a significant revamp. I'll get back to you in a couple of months!

    -- George Krashos


    Hey, did you ever get around to reading The Fanged Crown? If not, I might pick up a copy.

    I found that the 4e Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide includes more details on Anais. She was half-sister to Evonne Linden and had a grandfather named Reinhold. She seems to have had no children of her own, because her niece, Ysabel, is the heir.



    Hi Lhynard

    Yes, the novel did finally arrive and notwithstanding that it is not the best FR novel out there, it had enough info there to let me revamp the Tethyr post-Spellplague royal line. It's all good now. Have sent it to Steven for his comments and am awaiting a response.

    -- George Krashos
    Lhynard Posted - 07 Apr 2018 : 20:29:20
    I also have questions about an entirely different family, the Pesarkals. I know from p. 65 of ''Empires of the Shining Sea'' that Ralan had at least 21 sons! Do Steven's notes answer any of the following questions:

    • Ralan el Pesarkhal had two wives (EotSS, p74) named Catahra (EotSS, p101) and Oma (EotSS, p108). Who was the mother of each of his sons Fahd, Tahyr, Harun, Tamal, and Faruk?

    • Ralan's much younger brother Nasim, the "Dark Caleph", was married to a woman named Nureh. Nureh's mother was named Catahra (EotSS, p116). Does this imply that Nureh was both daughter-in-law and daughter to Ralan?

    • Fatima was Ralan's oldest daughter. Was she older or younger than Fahd and Tahyr?

    • Where do his daughters Saida and Kadila fall in the birth order?

    • Were his nephews Asraf and Kadar sons of Nasim or another unnamed brother or sister? Were they older or younger than Maham and Nasim the Younger?


    You can see what I have started here:
    http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/User:Lhynard/Projects/Family_Tree_Project#In_Progress
    Lhynard Posted - 07 Apr 2018 : 20:16:08
    quote:
    Originally posted by George Krashos
    I wasn't aware of the reference in the Backdrop: Cormyr article (and note that I'm working off Steven Schend's Tethyr notes, not Brian Cortijo's Cormyr notes which Brian James likely had access to).

    I note also that the novel "The Fanged Crown" appears to deal with the Tethyr royal family and the line of succession. I don't have that book (have just ordered a copy) but I suspect that it will put a significant monkey wrench into the Tethyr lore I have provided here and the Tethyr lineage I have will need a significant revamp. I'll get back to you in a couple of months!

    -- George Krashos


    Hey, did you ever get around to reading The Fanged Crown? If not, I might pick up a copy.

    I found that the 4e Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide includes more details on Anais. She was half-sister to Evonne Linden and had a grandfather named Reinhold. She seems to have had no children of her own, because her niece, Ysabel, is the heir.
    Asharak Posted - 26 Nov 2017 : 13:05:38
    quote:
    Originally posted by George Krashos

    I can see from Steven's "Lands of Intrigue" notes that in the drafts the third saint was St Toramir but in the final pre-edit write-up it was changed to St Natan. I'd go with the latter. For your information, here is what was cut from the final product and would have been on p.81 of the Tethyr Booklet:

    Monastery of St. Natan: The Year of the Keening Gale (1050 DR) saw the dedication and construction of this garrison and Ilmatran temple in the name of the paladin Prince Natan, the third son of King Coram who died saving his family (including the future King Coram II) and a caravan of strangers from a trio of wereboars. While this had always been a paladins' garrison and temple in honor of Natan's dying wish, the prince was sanctified within a few months' time, and this became the Garrison and Monastery of St. Natan. For more than 300 years, this has been an orphanage, school, and paladins' garrison, all under the watchful eyes of St. Natan. He is buried in one corner of the courtyard, and this site, considered holy by more than just Ilmater's faithful, was left undisturbed during the Black Days and the Interregnum. This is only one of three known royal tombs that were left totally unspoiled. The complex lies in western Monteshi 20 miles west of Darromar and south of the River Ith.

    -- George Krashos



    Thank you very much for this reply.

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