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Dargoth
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Posted - 14 Jul 2007 :  06:26:43  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic

Wells its almost 12 months since Mysteries of the Moondsea came out and Darrien said he submited a WE that updated Phlan but it still hasnt appeared on the WOTC site........

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I was wondering about this to. :( I really wanted to see it!

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Posted - 15 Jul 2007 :  02:19:38  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was and still am looking forward to this. It sounded like it was a done deal and would be out shortly after the release. Phlan has always been one of my favorite areas to explore, hopefully it is still going to happen.
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I forgot about it, myself... I am no fan of the Pools books; it is because of them that I dislike Phlan.

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I'm a little of both actually. I'd forgotten about the MotM web enhancement, but I'm still anxious to learn more about the present state of Phlan.

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Posted - 05 Aug 2007 :  16:28:54  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Anyone can reach Darrien Draeders ?
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I'm kind of wondering if the reception of the book led to WOTC thinking its not worth the effort to put this up. If they have already written the book off as a "loss," they may not see much point in promoting it with a web enhancement (although if they "rephrased" it as an article in their new Dragon or as a general FR article, it would be great).
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Posted - 06 Aug 2007 :  08:18:10  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic


Anyone can reach Darrien Draeders ?



Well met

Darrin is registered here at Candlekeep. I haven't seen him around the halls for a while, however.

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Hmmm... He's got an email address available. I'll ping him through the ether and see whether there's anything he can share with us.

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Posted - 21 Nov 2007 :  18:24:04  Show Profile  Visit RIMV's Homepage Send RIMV a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Has there been any news on the status of the MotM WE?
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Posted - 21 Nov 2007 :  19:00:43  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RIMV

Has there been any news on the status of the MotM WE?

I whined, screamed, and bitched on the WotC boards until they posted the rest of the "Class Chronicles" by Eytan (after the "Big Announcement," which was allegedly supposed to be about the Digital Initiative, and screwed our normal WotC site programs to hell). Maybe this tactic would work here as well.

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Posted - 29 Nov 2007 :  22:13:49  Show Profile  Visit RIMV's Homepage Send RIMV a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

quote:
Originally posted by RIMV

Has there been any news on the status of the MotM WE?

I whined, screamed, and bitched on the WotC boards until they posted the rest of the "Class Chronicles" by Eytan (after the "Big Announcement," which was allegedly supposed to be about the Digital Initiative, and screwed our normal WotC site programs to hell). Maybe this tactic would work here as well.



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Posted - 29 Nov 2007 :  23:39:23  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They plan on giving us lots of 'Freebies' over the next couple of months in Dragon Online (until they start charging).

I wouldn't be suprised at all if they will include this in that.

In fact - I think all the content we used to get for free - WE's, errata, maps, etc... will only be availble to people willing to pay for the subscription.

I just hope it's also more then that - WAY more then that.

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Well, according to the Grand History (spoilers, as if spoilers matter much these days):

In 1375 DR Zhentil Keep marches in and takes over Phlan, so whatever might have been in the web enhancement is likely out of date even by the end of the 3.5 timefrrame.
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Posted - 13 Jun 2008 :  11:33:57  Show Profile  Visit Eremite's Homepage Send Eremite a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Any news on this?

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The Sage
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Posted - 13 Jun 2008 :  14:37:20  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No. It's apparently still in WotC limbo.

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Interesting how this sroll pops up every 3 to 4 month! Seems to be quite an interest here at the Keep for this particular work. This will be a 'must-read' once it finally becomes available.

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With some of the points raised above, I don't think this web enhancement will ever be seen.

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quote:
Originally posted by capnvan

As well as to see whether Markustay wishes to rephrase his post. ;-p

If you are referring to the part where I said 'hope', then yes, I no longer have any.

The articles that were released since that post were mostly thinly-veiled advertisements...

Ohhh... and the Headless Zhent... who could forget that little gem?

Rich Baker's series is taking place in the Moonsea region, and obviously if any of the WE material conflicted with his own plans, then it would have got tossed by the powers that be (that most certainly know what we like better then we do). Add to that what others have said, which is basically just a re-cap of what has been officially stated - 3e lore will no longer be supported, and there's probably no chance in hell this will ever see the light of day.

I have come to the conclusion that FR has become a playground for a select group of people, and what anyone else wants no longer matters.

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Ohhh... and the Headless Zhent... who could forget that little gem?




You mean the "Zhent Headless Horseman"?

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Has there been any news about this?

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No. It's apparently still in WotC limbo.

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Posted - 29 Jun 2008 :  19:10:23  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

No. It's apparently still in WotC limbo.



Where it will, in all likelihood, remain...what with the S(p)ellplague and all

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Posted - 09 Sep 2009 :  14:47:22  Show Profile Send Thieran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What a shame - it apparently went from limbo to hell...
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quote:
Originally posted by Thieran

What a shame - it apparently went from limbo to hell...

I've tried pinging Darrin's email from time to time, with little success. Either it's an address he doesn't use any more, or he's just unable to answer any queries about the WE.

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He posts at www.enworld.org in the Pathfinder Forums. Also at paizo.

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It's rather sad that three years after the book came out, we're still waiting for our promised web enhancement.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

He posts at www.enworld.org in the Pathfinder Forums. Also at paizo.

Hmmm. Might try contacting him there. Thanks Brim.

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He has been very vocal about what has happened to the Realms. I dont think he plans on working for or with WotC anymore...so he is working with Paizo. Thats the impression I got.

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But maybe, if we are lucky, he is free to share the material he created for the web enhancement...

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I guess that's why I wrote "if we are lucky"... But you are of course right.
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