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Mystery_Man
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 :  01:29:50  Show Profile  Visit Mystery_Man's Homepage Send Mystery_Man a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Looking for 3.x stats for a sun blade of the Morninglord.

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Arivia
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The 2e reference is?
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 :  01:33:54  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mystery_Man

Looking for 3.x stats for a sun blade of the Morninglord.

TIA



I assume your refering to the Generic Sunblade that first appeared in 1ed Unearthed Arcana?

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Mystery_Man
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 :  01:35:09  Show Profile  Visit Mystery_Man's Homepage Send Mystery_Man a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have no idea. I've never heard of it, one of my players is asking. Is it a favored weapon of Lathander?
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Arivia
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quote:
Originally posted by Mystery_Man

I have no idea. I've never heard of it, one of my players is asking. Is it a favored weapon of Lathander?



Might be, but the stats for it can be found on page 228 of the 3.5 DMG.
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 :  01:40:45  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mystery_Man

I have no idea. I've never heard of it, one of my players is asking. Is it a favored weapon of Lathander?



Not really since his favored weapon is a Mace.

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Mystery_Man
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 :  01:41:52  Show Profile  Visit Mystery_Man's Homepage Send Mystery_Man a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

quote:
Originally posted by Mystery_Man

I have no idea. I've never heard of it, one of my players is asking. Is it a favored weapon of Lathander?



Might be, but the stats for it can be found on page 228 of the 3.5 DMG.



Oh, OK. I was looking thru my FR stuff and didn't even think to look there. Seems to fit nicely with Lathander. Thanks!
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Appropriate or not, that's the sword one of my player's Helmite cleric is gunning for (since he learned how to use bastard swords).
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quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Appropriate or not, that's the sword one of my player's Helmite cleric is gunning for (since he learned how to use bastard swords).



You should convert the Equaliser from BG2 to 3.5

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Mystery_Man
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 :  02:12:14  Show Profile  Visit Mystery_Man's Homepage Send Mystery_Man a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Appropriate or not, that's the sword one of my player's Helmite cleric is gunning for (since he learned how to use bastard swords).



Actually "Any individual able to use either a bastard sword or a short sword with proficiency is proficient in the use of a sun blade." All he needed was a martial weapon proficiency feat. I wouldn't let him know that now though. Unless you're not playing 3.x then it's all good.
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Oh, its fine. He already found an ancient elven Myth Drannan sword while adventuring around Mistledale (Keen Bastard Sword +1), and since the bastard sword is Helm's chosen weapon, he took it as a sign and burned the feat to learn how to use it. So he wouldn't be all that upset.
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Crennen FaerieBane
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I don't think the Sunblade would ever be a favored weapon of Lathander, but it could end up being a favored weapon of Amauntor, which was Lathander's previous aspect.

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quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane

I don't think the Sunblade would ever be a favored weapon of Lathander, but it could end up being a favored weapon of Amauntor, which was Lathander's previous aspect.

C-Fb



According to Faiths & Avatars, Amaunator was more a scepter kinda guy. And his specialty priests used bludgeoning weapons.

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Amaunator appeared as a lanky man with silver-white hair, a short, tenday growth of white beard, and skin that glowed constantly with a quiet golden radiance. He carried a scepter in one hand and a large legal tome in the other, and wore the dress of a magistrate: a long, flowing, black or purple gown trimmed in silver or gold.


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Dmg: 2d6+3 (scepter of the eternal sun, +1 Str)

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Mystery_Man
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 :  18:11:52  Show Profile  Visit Mystery_Man's Homepage Send Mystery_Man a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well maybe it'll be blessed by Lathander or something. Lathander, Morninglord, Sunblade..it all seems to go together for some reason.
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Oh I can see a Paladin of the Order of the Aster, for example, using one. It may not be Lathander's own favorite weapon, but that doesn't preclude his followers finding favor with it, since it is both practical for them and carried on the theme of their god.
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There are other examples of deities refusing to use a weapon, but freely permit followers to use it if they desire. There does not appear to be anything in dogma preventing followers from using Sun Blade.

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 04 Jan 2006 :  03:04:36  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
True... I think the Order of the Aster would want this blade along with a trusty mace at all times.

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scererar
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I have always felt that the Sun blade as being something totally associated with Lathander, even if it is not his favored weapon of choice
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Crennen FaerieBane
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Well, you have to remember that it is a core Magic Item - so, with a few tweeks and fixes, it suits Lathander just fine. May not be the weapon that a cleric/paladin at first thinks is holy - but I think its ability to kick butt in the name of their deity may serve to sway them a bit..

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Mystery_Man
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Posted - 04 Jan 2006 :  16:27:57  Show Profile  Visit Mystery_Man's Homepage Send Mystery_Man a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane

Well, you have to remember that it is a core Magic Item - so, with a few tweeks and fixes, it suits Lathander just fine. May not be the weapon that a cleric/paladin at first thinks is holy - but I think its ability to kick butt in the name of their deity may serve to sway them a bit..

C-Fb



Perhaps the symbol of a rising sun on the pommel, when the daylight ability is cast from the sword the light comes from that.
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