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The Sage
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  08:51:50  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
While searching through some sources for ideas that I'd like to be included in the future chapters of Walking Through Mirrors, I came upon the mention of the 'Goldspires', in Athkatla. The primary reference I have found regarding the 'Goldspires' is in the FR/PS adventure For Duty and Deity.

So, does anyone know of any other FR resources which have some information on this portion of the City of Coin?

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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  09:05:13  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Amn booklet of the Lands of Intrigue boxed set has information on it. Typically checking a regional supplement for questions like these yields some information.
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  09:19:22  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, I'd neglected to mention that I had already searched through the Lands of Intrigue box set...

I was simply hoping that there were other sources that I was unaware of...

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Sarelle
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  12:29:20  Show Profile Send Sarelle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't have it - but what about Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II? That dealt with Athkatla pretty extensively.

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The Sage
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  12:49:01  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Strangely enough, I don't have this particular resource. Does anyone have any details?

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The Sage
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  12:51:31  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, now that I think about it, I should probably direct this question about the Goldspires to either George or Mr. Boyd.

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Sarelle
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  14:35:24  Show Profile Send Sarelle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Or Mr. Schend. He did detail Amn.

I think kuje has that Volo's Guide. It's one of the ones I want the most.

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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  15:29:03  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sarelle

I don't have it - but what about Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II? That dealt with Athkatla pretty extensively.



Yes, the first 40 or so pages in the tome detail the city. Not to mention it also has a map.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  17:59:01  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just flipped thru my copy of Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II, and I didn't really see any info on Goldpsires.

There is some info on page 179 of Faiths & Avatars...

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  19:54:52  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

So, does anyone know of any other FR resources which have some information on this portion of the City of Coin?




So what more did you want to know? I've not reread what I and others wrote about it, but post some questions or areas of inquiry and let's brainstorm some more lore on one of the richer temples in Faerun (and definitely one of the richest in southern Faerun, ignoring the protection rackets in Calimport that fill the coffers of Shar's undertemple therein).

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who really wished more could have been done with Goldspires but the church and the goddess was weak at that time and it was better to leave it a footnote

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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  20:04:12  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, given the Current Clack project that is getting of the ground... here's two:

- What is the Temple's involvement in war-torn Amnish politics? Obviously war is bad for commerce (except arms dealing and black-market stuff) so the Waukeenar might want to have a status-quo as soon as possible - if the Monster empire is willing to trade, then why not...

- Does the Temple view the 'defection' of Riatavin & co to Tethyr as good or bad for business. Would they sponsor covert agents to reverse the events? or would they cooperate and see if they can make a profit out of the re-alignment of trade in the region (especially with the Sythillisian Empire sitting across a major north-south trade axis)
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Smiling Imp
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Posted - 04 May 2013 :  03:43:14  Show Profile  Visit Smiling Imp's Homepage Send Smiling Imp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Too Bad. I was hoping to find some canon information about the Goldspires, as I wanted to add some dialogs mentioning it in my mod.

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Wooly Rupert
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Almost nine years... Some impressive thread necromancy!

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The Sage
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Posted - 04 May 2013 :  09:25:26  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Almost nine years... Some impressive thread necromancy!

What's even more impressive is that in those nine years, my 'Walking Through Mirrors' campaign collapsed, was later reborn as a purely PLANESCAPE-based venture, collapsed again, then become the basis for a standalone mini-campaign setting, until finally ending it's run as a side-quest in a campaign series I crafted using the Chaositech source as a platform.

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Caladan Brood
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Posted - 04 May 2013 :  12:22:57  Show Profile  Visit Caladan Brood's Homepage Send Caladan Brood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Doing a quick search of my PDF with the keyword "Goldspires", I got the following hits (don't know if this helps):
"Kara-Tur: The Eastern Realms", "For Duty and Deity", "Cities of Mystery","Tantras" and, not an RPG resource, "Elminster in Myth Drannor" - but not "Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II", strangely enough (I do have the physical copy as well so if there's anything you want me to find in it, I can help out).
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Caladan Brood

Doing a quick search of my PDF with the keyword "Goldspires", I got the following hits (don't know if this helps):
"Kara-Tur: The Eastern Realms", "For Duty and Deity", "Cities of Mystery","Tantras" and, not an RPG resource, "Elminster in Myth Drannor" - but not "Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II", strangely enough (I do have the physical copy as well so if there's anything you want me to find in it, I can help out).



Some of the earlier pdfs weren't searchable.

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hashimashadoo
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Posted - 30 May 2013 :  15:26:49  Show Profile  Visit hashimashadoo's Homepage Send hashimashadoo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Volo's Guide really concentrates on Athkatla in the first chapter. There's very little to do with Goldspires. Lands of Intrigue is the book of choice for lore on the temple-town.

However, the lore that it deals with is mostly about the religious & social changes that Lliira's regency has wrought and the intercenine politics of the Furies.

There's no mention of what Goldspire's opinion is of the war, though the destruction the sothillisians bring, especially on Trademeet is probably not looked very kindly on. As for the secession of Riatavin, there's a bit in there about how several caravan contracts were broken and that trade was only being accepted from Tethyr & Erlkazar but no mention of what Goldspires would do to reverse this.

An interesting thing to note however is that Halanna Jashire, the big up-and-comer at Goldspires comes from Riatavin and her family still live there.

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Ze
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quote:
Originally posted by hashimashadoo
However, the lore that it deals with is mostly about the religious & social changes that Lliira's regency has wrought and the intercenine politics of the Furies.

There's no mention of what Goldspire's opinion is of the war, though the destruction the sothillisians bring, especially on Trademeet is probably not looked very kindly on. As for the secession of Riatavin, there's a bit in there about how several caravan contracts were broken and that trade was only being accepted from Tethyr & Erlkazar but no mention of what Goldspires would do to reverse this.



Ooooh, now I need to get that book...

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hashimashadoo
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Sorry, I misspoke. The caravan contracts weren't broken, they were bought. The caravans were then sent south to Tethyr instead of their usual destinations further into Amn.

It was for that reason that the merchant families wanted the Council of Six to declare war and the reason a massive merc army was hired - originally to lay seige to Riatavin, only then to end up fighting the sothillisians.

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