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Irennan
Great Reader
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
 Posted - 01 Dec 2016 : 02:15:22
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KanzenAU
Senior Scribe
Australia
763 Posts |
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KanzenAU
Senior Scribe
Australia
763 Posts |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2016 : 06:30:04
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It says 'Epub' - I don't know what that is. Do I have to have a tablet to read it? I never read digital stuff, but since its a short story I figured I'd give it a go. Can I just open that file on my computer?  |
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KanzenAU
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2016 : 13:44:49
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Originally posted by KanzenAU
Edit: I just noticed the disclaimer:
"This is a work of fan fiction and should not be considered canon and is not meant to infringe on the intellectual property of Wizards of the Coast."
 I thought Ed had a deal where everything he wrote was considered canon as long as it didn't conflict?
Yes, he has that deal, that's why he specifically clarifies when something that he says is not supposed to be canon. However, it's a big let down that what Ed's going to publish through the DMG won't be considered canon, because that means that WotC probably won't even bother with it, and will likely overwrite it at some point.
On the plus side, it means that Ed's DMGuild products don't count towards the yearly book that he should be allowed to work on, so we will get to see some bigger stuff from him. |
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Edited by - Irennan on 01 Dec 2016 16:51:17 |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2016 : 14:00:56
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Originally posted by Markustay
It says 'Epub' - I don't know what that is. Do I have to have a tablet to read it? I never read digital stuff, but since its a short story I figured I'd give it a go. Can I just open that file on my computer?
As KenzenAU said, Calibre lets you read e-reader file formats on your PC. |
Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2016 : 17:03:30
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Originally posted by Markustay
It says 'Epub' - I don't know what that is. Do I have to have a tablet to read it? I never read digital stuff, but since its a short story I figured I'd give it a go. Can I just open that file on my computer?
I use Adobe Digital Editions myself. |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2016 : 17:06:20
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Originally posted by KanzenAU
Just finished - I really enjoyed it! Well worth the dollar spent.
Edit: I just noticed the disclaimer:
"This is a work of fan fiction and should not be considered canon and is not meant to infringe on the intellectual property of Wizards of the Coast."
I thought Ed had a deal where everything he wrote was considered canon as long as it didn't conflict?
I liked it too. Mirt has to be one of Tymora's favorites. Some nice lore in there for details of Ormpur too. Good stuff. :) |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2016 : 18:00:45
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I don't care about canon when I game, but I do care about what WotC does to the published FR. If they refuse to consider Ed's contribution to the already depressing condition of the FR product line as canonical, then that's really bad news to me.
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 01 Dec 2016 : 19:53:57
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Originally posted by Irennan
I don't care about canon when I game, but I do care about what WotC does to the published FR. If they refuse to consider Ed's contribution to the already depressing condition of the FR product line as canonical, then that's really bad news to me.
That sums up my feelings. Its like did they really think this story would somehow break the realms? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 01 Dec 2016 : 20:44:36
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Jeez, guys, did no one consider that we don't know that anything has changed? That's a similar disclaimer to the ones I've seen on a lot of fan work, regardless of the media and the genre.
Ed's new project isn't just for him -- it's a group effort. This is unlikely to be anything other than a generic CYA, so that folks other than Ed can create material there without stepping on any toes. |
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Adhriva
Learned Scribe
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2016 : 21:19:46
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Originally posted by Gyor
That sums up my feelings. Its like did they really think this story would somehow break the realms?
Personally, I hope it breaks the no-narrative rules of the DMsGuild.
That said, it could be submitted as Fan Fiction and canonized later - as they've said they were interested in making some offerings on the DMsGuild official for a while now. It is, in a way, a back up. If they don't give Ed a publication on the Realms, they can turn this offering into canon and that might be enough. It might also set the stage for allowing them to pick and choose which of Ed's works will be continued as canon as opposed to accepting all of them. Just my personal thoughts on it. |
Professional illustrator and comic book artist.
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2016 : 00:18:01
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Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. |
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Adhriva
Learned Scribe
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2016 : 00:58:11
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I can't.
Guess they're really serious about the whole no fan fiction allowed thing.... |
Professional illustrator and comic book artist.
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idilippy
Senior Scribe
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2016 : 01:09:35
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2016 : 01:30:23
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Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
6351 Posts |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2016 : 09:32:52
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2016 : 09:33:39
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Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2016 : 14:56:33
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Originally posted by Irennan
Ed has said that it was taken down, and he's waiting for an answer on why.
Given the number of offerings on the site and how long it was up, I'm going to take a guess and say it was WotC that did it. If stories are not an option, I'd assume it can be added to a Volo's Guide much like the fiction in some of the Pathfinder products to satisfy requirements. All of this is just a guess of course. |
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Rils
Learned Scribe
USA
108 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2016 : 16:17:32
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2016 : 16:23:55
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Ed's answers in this forum, or anywhere, are still official until overwritten. There's a reason when he specifies that something that he says is not official (as he sometimes does, and as he did for this story) and that's probably because he knows that WotC won't agree with that.
If Ed's story had been published w/o disclaimer, it would have technically been canon, until WotC found out and said it was not. |
Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2016 : 20:22:41
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Awesome news: the story is temporarily down, because WotC want to upload it as official lore.
"Mirt story on DM's Guild temporarily down; Wizards wants it wearing the full glory of its game Realmslore! Stitching glitter, back up soon!"
https://twitter.com/TheEdVerse/status/804775397716033536 |
Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. |
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Adhriva
Learned Scribe
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2016 : 21:24:20
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6643 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2016 : 00:31:44
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Originally posted by Irennan
Awesome news: the story is temporarily down, because WotC want to upload it as official lore.
"Mirt story on DM's Guild temporarily down; Wizards wants it wearing the full glory of its game Realmslore! Stitching glitter, back up soon!"
https://twitter.com/TheEdVerse/status/804775397716033536
Yep, Ed has let me know that he "left the gamelore off the table" as he put it and WotC want it back in. A few tweaks and it should return soon.
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2016 : 00:47:26
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shoracthegold
Acolyte
USA
5 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2016 : 01:53:06
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6643 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2016 : 09:26:17
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Originally posted by Irennan
What did he mean by gamelore? Mechanics, or lore writeups?
We'll find out next week!
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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New short story by Ed
