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Therise
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 06 Sep 2013 : 17:13:35
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Just a heads up, WotC will soon be transitioning to a new forums.
Nothing posted after 8/26 (and up to 9/9) will be saved and transferred over. And while they're promising to save as much old "data" (aka old forum posts) as they can, it's not certain that all old posts will transfer over. So if you have a old post there that you want to save, make sure you archive it and save it to your own computer before this all goes down.
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Posted by WotC, September 05, 2013
Hey there. We just wanted to let you know that we’ll be transitioning to a new community site on 9/9. There may be a brief downtime on the 9th, but when we come back up we’ll have a great looking new site that’s easy to navigate. While we’re trying to retain as much data as we can, all posts made after 8/26 will not be transferred over. With this in mind, if there is any information that you want to ensure you have after the transition, you should probably copy and paste those posts into your personal documents. Also, signatures will not be transferred during the process, so make sure to grab those before Monday if you want to keep them.
Once the transition is done we’ll have some posts talking about the ins and outs of the new site. Thanks much for your patience and support during this change.
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Drustan Dwnhaedan
Learned Scribe
USA
324 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2013 : 18:02:55
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Thanks for the heads up! |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2013 : 18:59:42
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Geez, I have to go back a re-copy the entire Utter East thread... AGAIN.
Thanks for the heads-up. Therise.
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I wonder why they keep doing this? They loose a ton of really good stuff every time (or is that the idea?) |
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Therise
Master of Realmslore
1272 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2013 : 19:15:58
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Originally posted by Markustay
Geez, I have to go back a re-copy the entire Utter East thread... AGAIN.
Thanks for the heads-up. Therise.
Aside:
I wonder why they keep doing this? They loose a ton of really good stuff every time (or is that the idea?)
No probs.
I think their goal this time is to keep as much of the old forum posts as they can, not intentionally deleting anything. But you never know what will happen or get accidentally lost in a transition.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 07 Sep 2013 : 03:52:49
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Originally posted by Markustay
Geez, I have to go back a re-copy the entire Utter East thread... AGAIN.
Heh. I think the last time I made a copy of that thread... was back during the forum migration from Gleemax. |
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Therise
Master of Realmslore
1272 Posts |
Posted - 07 Sep 2013 : 04:01:12
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Markustay
Geez, I have to go back a re-copy the entire Utter East thread... AGAIN.
Heh. I think the last time I made a copy of that thread... was back during the forum migration from Gleemax.
Oh lord, Gleemax. So green. And such an ugly neon green.
It hurt the eyes.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 07 Sep 2013 : 08:47:03
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Originally posted by Therise
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Markustay
Geez, I have to go back a re-copy the entire Utter East thread... AGAIN.
Heh. I think the last time I made a copy of that thread... was back during the forum migration from Gleemax.
Oh lord, Gleemax. So green. And such an ugly neon green.
It hurt the eyes.
I avoided the forums during the Gleemax migration. Not so much because the colour was a little distracting, but for whatever reason, the site itself and the message boards would experience outages at least once a day on these shores. PLus I was growing a little tired of the near-constant "site maintenance" messages that came up and prevented regularly access to a lot of the sub-forums I used to frequent.
I had only certain times of the day that I could peruse those boards, and that's often when these scheduled maintenance outages would occur. [Probably as a result of the time differences between Australia and the US.] So I gave up on them after a few months. And then came back when Wizards shifted their message boards away from Gleemax. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 07 Sep 2013 : 14:20:41
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I was glad I couldn't be on the WotC forums when they did the Gleemax thing.
I still wonder what not-over-the-counter substance inspired that one.  |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 07 Sep 2013 : 14:27:07
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I think they need to make Gleemax FR canon; some sort of powerful psionicist demon that drove people away (from their homes) by the thousands at the outset of 3e... errr... during the initial onslaught of the Spellplague.
Maybe Gleemax was the Spellplague incarnate.  |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 07 Sep 2013 : 20:40:52
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Markustay
Geez, I have to go back a re-copy the entire Utter East thread... AGAIN.
Heh. I think the last time I made a copy of that thread... was back during the forum migration from Gleemax.
Ya know, Sage... you could save me a LOT of time...
But you'd have to let me know right away - everything goes bye-bye in 2 days. |
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Therise
Master of Realmslore
1272 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2013 : 00:23:00
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Originally posted by Markustay
I think they need to make Gleemax FR canon; some sort of powerful psionicist demon that drove people away (from their homes) by the thousands at the outset of 3e... errr... during the initial onslaught of the Spellplague.
Maybe Gleemax was the Spellplague incarnate.
Maybe. But wait, wasn't Spellplague all about massive overuse of the word "cerulean"? Seems like they had to paste "cerulean" into every description. Someone loved that color.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2013 : 01:16:42
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Right, the arcane magic wave that rolled over Toril was blue (cerulean), but when it mixed with the anti-magical counter-wave (which was yellow for some reason), it created an angry, crazed, bright green demon known to the world as Gleemax (because of its uncontrollable, hideous laughter). Born of two diametrically opposed forces that drive it into an insane rage, it acts as a living conduit of anarchy between the real world and our dreams (hence its ability to cross between this world and Toril, indiscriminately).
Gleemax was, in effect, the anti-Mystra!!! 
DUH DUH DUHHHHH!!!  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2013 : 03:23:43
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Originally posted by Markustay
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Markustay
Geez, I have to go back a re-copy the entire Utter East thread... AGAIN.
Heh. I think the last time I made a copy of that thread... was back during the forum migration from Gleemax.
Ya know, Sage... you could save me a LOT of time...
But you'd have to let me know right away - everything goes bye-bye in 2 days.
So long as you or any of the other contributors to that old thread haven't added anything significant since the days of Gleemax, then it should be fine. Otherwise, I don't think I have any copies of the thread if it's been heavily updated since that time.
It might be worth you saving it anyway. My internet connection's kind of wonky today... and I'm presently typing this on a friend's computer away from the SageCave, so I can't currently check the archived thread I have at home. |
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Edited by - The Sage on 08 Sep 2013 03:24:46 |
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Therise
Master of Realmslore
1272 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2013 : 04:18:12
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Originally posted by Markustay
Right, the arcane magic wave that rolled over Toril was blue (cerulean), but when it mixed with the anti-magical counter-wave (which was yellow for some reason), it created an angry, crazed, bright green demon known to the world as Gleemax (because of its uncontrollable, hideous laughter). Born of two diametrically opposed forces that drive it into an insane rage, it acts as a living conduit of anarchy between the real world and our dreams (hence its ability to cross between this world and Toril, indiscriminately).
Gleemax was, in effect, the anti-Mystra!!!
DUH DUH DUHHHHH!!!
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...But you'd have to let me know right away - everything goes bye-bye in 2 days.
Technically, I think only the most recent posts between 8/26 and 9/9 are guaranteed to disappear. Seems like they're trying to save all of the earlier forum data, which would include everything older than 8/26. But you never know, some things might accidentally get lost in the shuffle.
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
830 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2013 : 05:46:25
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Heh, Gleemax, the first thing that came to mind when I discussed this changeover on the WotC at another community. Ever in our thoughts.
The positive point to take away from these forum upgrades is that usually there are new features baked into the never versions as well as improved security features. It's technically a good thing that WotC has the resources to do this every few years and actually invests in their forum technology. On the other hand, I've seen such upgrades completely eviscerate once bustling communities due to the initial transition and subsequent disruptions. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6643 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2013 : 08:32:53
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Ooooh, I hope I don't lose my status as the earliest, still active registered poster.
-- George Krashos
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2013 : 10:02:23
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Ooooh, I hope I don't lose my status as the earliest, still active registered poster.
-- George Krashos
I think they were changed during a previous forum migration.
As I recall, 'twas you, Faraer, and myself who were counted among some of the earliest and still active registered members of the Wizards boards -- from early-to-mid 2001.
But when I last checked, about two years ago, those kinds of details were no longer part of member profiles. |
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Therise
Master of Realmslore
1272 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2013 : 15:27:26
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Well, the new WotC forums are up.
I can't even. 
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Edited by - Therise on 10 Sep 2013 15:28:33 |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2013 : 15:55:23
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Yeah. WTH, the old forums looked way better and were more intuitive to use IMO.
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Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2013 : 17:15:51
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| Should I be happy that I've not been active over there for close to 10 years? |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Sep 2013 : 18:53:24
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Not sure, I have not posted there for almost a year.
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Drustan Dwnhaedan
Learned Scribe
USA
324 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2013 : 21:20:13
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Should I be happy that I've not been active over there for close to 10 years?
If what some members of my gaming group are saying is true, then yes, you should be. (Was going to check it out myself, but it doesn't sound terribly appealing anymore.) Sort of wonder if this 'change for the worse' was deliberate. (Okay, I realize it wasn't, but some of WotC's decisions over the last few years have made me extremely cynical and prone to being a little... harsh in what I say and think about them. I apologize for being blunt. I don't mean to offend anyone, but I can't help how I feel.) |
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Therise
Master of Realmslore
1272 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2013 : 23:14:07
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I'm really not sure what prompted the change to this new format. Personally, I haven't participated there in about 3 years, mostly because there wasn't a whole lot to discuss and some of the other posters became outright hostile (not towards me, but just in general it was rather ugly).
But this new format, it's really clunky. There's just way too much unnecessary white space, gigantic buttons, and navigation has become much more difficult. I also understand that friend lists have disappeared, and for those who play the card games there are other issues. None of my bookmarks work any more, which I sort of suspected might happen, but the search function is also quite poor.
I reactivated my account a few weeks ago, but honestly it's like going through a formatting beta test. Not sure how much I'll be "back" there, if at all, really.
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Edited by - Therise on 10 Sep 2013 23:15:05 |
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
830 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2013 : 23:37:45
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They went for the ultra-sleek modern look of different colored squares and shapes, and non-strategic white space. Place looks barren in content, especially given they backed up two weeks ago and everything appears dead since then. They need a few good themes toss on top of this at the least.
Just when I thought the site started to return to decent functionality since their last forum upgrade around the 4E debut, they wipe it all away. They have a year to get things running and looking smooth before 5E officially launches. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2013 : 23:53:08
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| Well, I missed the cut-off, so if that thread is gone, then Sage is my last hope (and god-help-me if I end up on his 'to do' list). |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2013 : 03:21:17
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Originally posted by Markustay
Well, I missed the cut-off, so if that thread is gone, then Sage is my last hope (and god-help-me if I end up on his 'to do' list).
I don't see that happening.
In fact, I was skimming an old archive yesterday morning when I came across the entire saved "Utter East" thread I made when I last frequented that particular discussion. So it's close at hand.  |
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
2717 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2013 : 11:02:57
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| It took me a few tries but I was able to find the new link to the WotC Novels Book Club. |
Look for me and my content at EN World (user name: sanishiver). |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3240 Posts |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3240 Posts |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2013 : 13:48:50
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Of course they are...
Its not like anyone at WotC actually wants people to find their site useful and go there a lot. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2013 : 16:13:31
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Originally posted by Markustay
Of course they are...
Its not like anyone at WotC actually wants people to find their site useful and go there a lot.
I think they need to put some more money into their web presence... I'm inclined to think that they have a small web team, who are kept so busy tossing up new pages that they simply don't have time to maintain links. WotC does have a nice website, so they've got some talent. So either their web folks can make a good website but don't know how to update links, or they're kept too busy to bother with the task of updating links to older content. The latter is far more likely than the former -- I don't have the web skillz to build one of their pages, but I know enough to go into the HTML of a page and make minor tweaks like updating links. A lot of my not-work-related web surfing is done from links on pages I created myself, and even some of the stuff I do at work goes off of pages I created myself.
I suppose it's also possible that there is a directive from above to never update links, but I think that unlikely -- such a command really doesn't make sense. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 11 Sep 2013 16:25:06 |
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