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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 19 Aug 2013 :  22:53:49  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hail and Well Met, Faerunians,

I am one of the organizers of the "Candlekeep Presents" seminars, and at this year we collected some thoughts about organizing the seminars going forward. Since the seminar is as much for all of us who love and support the Realms, I'd like to have your input to build it--that is, if you are interested in attending, what would work for you?

Answer any or all of the following, and your feedback will go into the thinking cauldron!

1) Date: Which day would you prefer for the seminar at GenCon? Possibilities are:

(a) Wednesday: pro = almost no conflicts, con = fewer people available that early in the con

(b) Thursday: pro = fewer conflicts, con = up against WotC's annual keynote/night with D&D thing

(c) Friday: pro = many attendees are around, con = up against the ENnies

(d) Saturday: pro = maximize attendance, con = people are a little tired near the end of the con

2) Time: The tentative plan is to do a 7pm - 10pm seminar, as that gives us a bit of time between the cutoff of 4-6pm seminars.

I also think the 4 hour length is a little too much: I think this year we covered in 4 hours about what we could cover in 3 hours.

3) Theme: Last year, we talked about the Realms in general and we have pins with a crest of the Cormyrian Purple Dragons. This year, our theme was the Harpers, and our pin was a Harper Pin. What should our theme be next year?

4) The Exchange of Gold: We really don't want to ask for money, but in putting together the seminars the last couple years, we've created all the pins and handouts out of pocket, and that can get pretty expensive, particularly if more people show up to the event next year. We were also considering getting some pizza or other food for the seminar. The more attendees contribute, the more we can afford to do.

Considering what's on offer--secrets, a giveaway of whatever we can put together, three hours with up to a dozen authors and designers, including Ed Greenwood, R.A. Salvatore, Jim Lowder, Richard Lee Byers, myself, the James Brothers, etc), the possibility of food--how much would you be willing to kick in to the seminar?

Thanks for input, everyone!

Cheers

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Posted - 20 Aug 2013 :  00:05:24  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well unless it is moved much closer to me I will not attend, so my feedback clearly will not effect time selected.

Based of your evaluation, I would select.

1)(C) Friday, not sure who cares about the ENnies? This year another member indicated Lolth accepted an award.

2) Three hours are better the four, I though have observed if it can be done in two hours that is even better. Clearly I support 7:00 to 10:00 as a good idea, though if you could get it to 7:00 to 9: or 8:00 to 10:00 it clearly would work better for some people.

3) Theme, if not touched of Waterdeep or the Dales as a whole recent years, there are always the border lands.

4) 5 copper to get in? Without knowing how much the company is kicking in, I would guess a fair price for pizza *shudders*, commemorative pin, some soft drinks, eatable snacks and some coffee, tea or soda a price requested in the range of 5.00 USD to 7.00 USD might be a fair ask.

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Tyrant
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Posted - 20 Aug 2013 :  04:35:53  Show Profile  Visit Tyrant's Homepage Send Tyrant a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My opinions, for whatever they are worth.

1) Friday is the best. Wednesday is probably the worst because not as many people are there yet. Thursday could work (wasn't it Thursday last year?) unless it is right up against the Keynote/D&D thing. Friday is up against the ENnies, but I ask in all honesty (because I truly have no clue about such things), how many people coming to the Candlekeep seminar are also going to the ENnies? If there is a lot of conflict, Friday may not be such a hot choice. My personal issue with Saturday (so again, for whatever it's worth) is that is the day I am most likely to have other people with me and they have no interest in sitting in on 3-4 hours of discussion of a world they know nothing about. So, that is why I why I vote for Friday.

2) 7-10 would work as near as I can tell. The other guests beyond the guys putting everything together seem to get there well after 6 as is.

3) Maybe a theme based around a lesser known/seen part of the Realms? Not sure what to suggest on that front though. Barring that, maybe something related to the Hidden Lords or one Guild or another in Waterdeep?

4) Whatever you guys feel is reasonable on the $ front. I enjoy the seminar and you guys shouldn't have to put up all the money yourselves. Given the delicate nature of the items as discussed this year, as far as WotC is concerned, I would make sure charging for the event is cool with them as well. If there is an issue there, maybe donations is the way to go?

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silverwolfer
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Posted - 20 Aug 2013 :  04:50:08  Show Profile Send silverwolfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1. Attendance is not the random folks in the crowd, but rather those that are your fans, which will probably go out of the way to attend the function, if you have good features, so Wednesday is my vote.

2.Shorter is better sometimes

3.No clue

4.VIP tickets (food and all that stuff) helps cover costs
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Would it be possible to contribute to the cost of the event even if you don't attend? I very much want to go to Gen Con next year, but in the event life gets in the way I'd like to at least be able to help out.

Would a PayPal or Kickstarter be in order or would that be too much work? I'd be willing to chip in about $20.

As to the Erik's questions:

1. (d) Saturday gets my vote. That'd be a nice way to wind down and really cement in the last, best memories of the Con for all the scribes in attendance.

2. 7-10 PM sounds good.

3. Waterdeep was my first thought. Maybe give out pins depicting the helms that Masked Lords wear?

4. See top of post.

Thanks for doing all this Erik. It's appreciated.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 20 Aug 2013 :  15:02:37  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1. Saturday

2. 7-10 sounds about right

3. The Sword Coast

4. probably up to $20......and i would be more than happy to "donate" towards this years cost for one of those nifty Harper pins

and I like the idea of paypal.....I like Kickstarter as well, but then you have to factor there cut means you need to raise even more $

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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Aug 2013 :  15:17:11  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer

Would it be possible to contribute to the cost of the event even if you don't attend? I very much want to go to Gen Con next year, but in the event life gets in the way I'd like to at least be able to help out.

Would a PayPal or Kickstarter be in order or would that be too much work? I'd be willing to chip in about $20.
I fully second this initiative.

Even if I couldn't potentially attend, I'd love the opportunity to provide some financial support for those of my Realms fellows who can participate in the next seminar.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 20 Aug 2013 :  15:35:38  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd be willing to pay just to get my hands on the pins.

That said, I'm going to start putting money aside and see if I can't make Gen Con happen next year.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 20 Aug 2013 :  15:41:53  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'd be willing to pay just to get my hands on the pins.

That said, I'm going to start putting money aside and see if I can't make Gen Con happen next year.



You need to make it happen Wooly!

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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 20 Aug 2013 :  16:02:15  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

4. probably up to $20......and i would be more than happy to "donate" towards this years cost for one of those nifty Harper pins

and I like the idea of paypal.....I like Kickstarter as well, but then you have to factor there cut means you need to raise even more $

I have no knowledge of the particulars vis-a-vis kickstarter and the cost to use it, but if it were used to fund next year's event I'd hope that at a certain donation level you'd get one of those nifty pins in the mail.

And for the big spenders out there (say $100) you get all the pins from prior years.

But of course it's not about the pins, it's about helping out. As long as I knew I was helping to get the next Candlekeep Presents seminar up and running that's good enough for me.

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George Krashos
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Given I plan on attending next year (if the gods will it - i.e. my wife and kids), I'll take any night but consider that Friday would be best as the ENnies aren't everyone's cup of tea (certainly not mine) and that leaves Saturday free for socialising!

I would be prepared to make a donation of $50+ just due to the giddy excitement of being there.

As for a theme, why don't you pick a bad guy organisation such as the Red Wizards of Thay or the Zhentarim, just for something different, and have the focus on the bad guys. Ed can let us know about hitherto unrevealed minor or regional bad guy groups to give us some exclusive realmslore.

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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Aug 2013 :  03:55:33  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

As for a theme, why don't you pick a bad guy organisation such as the Red Wizards of Thay or the Zhentarim, just for something different, and have the focus on the bad guys.
Cool idea!

Although, I might be more inclined to suggest a bad guy organisation that doesn't always get as much attention as the Red Wizards or the Black Network.

How about the Twisted Rune?

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Garen Thal
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Posted - 21 Aug 2013 :  04:07:37  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My own preferences are below. I know that I'm one of the organizers, but that doesn't stop me from having opinions.

1) Saturday (after looking at the last two years, this is a heavy preference)

2) I think I would prefer an 8 pm start time, unless food is provided. Otherwise, an hour to wrap up whatever last-of-day seminars are going on, eat during the fastest rush of the convention (remembering that most single-day attendees come on Saturday, and there's almost always some other event in downtown Indy at that time) simply isn't enough. A two-hour "break" before beginning would remove any food considerations from the timing of folks' arrival.

3) TBA

4) I will be investigating, over the next few weeks, various methods (like PayPal and GoFundMe) for allowing folks to donate towards future years' expenses. We cannot do a Kickstarter; because we are not providing any new product, and are not the owners of the intellectual property in question, we have to keep very careful records of what we promise, what we take in, and what we provide. Donations can help to defray costs, but they are not purchases.
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Emma Drake
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Posted - 21 Aug 2013 :  07:07:18  Show Profile  Visit Emma Drake's Homepage Send Emma Drake a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1) Date:

I think that Wednesday would be a poor choice. The con doesn't even start until Thursday and I know that many people get in late Thursday.

My vote goes to Friday or Saturday. I like Friday because it's a little earlier in the weekend and as such some people will be less tired. On the other hand, I love doing that kind of thing on Saturday because I wouldn't want the Ennies to pull any of the authors/designers out of the event. That's one of the best parts. That's also the day I usually do my Forgotten Realms cosplay. (And next year will be particularly amazing.)


2) Time:

I like the 7-10 suggestion. An hour is enough time to get food for people who might be trying to eat between events. I think shorter than 3 hours would do the event a disservice.


3) Theme:

George Krashos's suggestion of a bad guy group is an interesting one. It's also going to be after all of The Sundering books have been released. Perhaps waiting to decide on the theme until those revelations have come to light?


4) The Exchange of Gold:

I think putting a price on the ticket is a good idea for two reasons. First, you guys don't bear the financial burden of the pins after already putting forth so much time to make sure we have a great event to attend. Second, people will be less likely to reserve tickets they have no intention of using. I noticed that the event sold out, but many did not show up. Putting a few dollars as a price tag will prevent some of that I think. There may have been people interested who couldn't get tickets and didn't come, not realizing that there would be room. And that's too bad.

As for what that price should be, I think getting higher than $6 will discourage people from attending (and think $4 would be an ideal number). This is particularly true for people who have not ever attended. While snacks sound good, giving people an hour to eat between Forgotten Realms events would mean that there will be less need to provide something more substantial. Anything more than finger foods seems a little excessive to me and the higher the ticket price, the more you risk people not coming because the cost is too high. If providing snacks would put the cost above $6, I don't think soda and snacks is worth losing potential attendees.

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Kris the Grey
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After pondering your questions for a bit...

1) I too agree that Friday or Saturday seem best for the event timing. I assume your biggest headache will be working around whatever WoTC has in mind for the promotion of their 5E (D&D Next or what have you) release. I'm guessing it'll be a pretty big show (and consume the time of a lot of your panelists).

2) I also like the 7 to 10 pm or 8 to 11 pm run time suggestions. The first event, while certainly fun, ran so late that you couldn't do any side socializing post panel. It was nice that this event formally ended at 10, so those who wanted to chat up the panelists afterwards had a bit of time to do so without it being 2am when they were done. (Hmmm, a thought. An after party of some sort? Perhaps with an adult beverage or three? That seems like an idea I'd get behind trying to organize as well...let me know if it appeals to anyone. It might address the food/drinks issue without having to cater the official event - a delay in the start time to allow for dinner, with light nosh and drinks once room is back in the belly for some more refreshment).

3) On the issue of theme, that I'll leave to the creative minds behind the first two outings. I assume some sort of 'Realms Sundering Current Events' tie-in theme might work well? As soon as you might know, please share the theme so anyone attempting to dress for it might plan accordingly. Those outfits often take some lead time to prepare. Lol.

4) On the financials, I'd suggest a two-tiered pricing scheme. One modest price for entry (to pay for the basics yet not drive down attendance numbers) with some mechanism in place for those wishing to contribute more ($10 or $20 maybe) to do so and obtain simple kudos or some sort of addition swag. I agree with GT, the legal complications surrounding a kickstarter style funding approach are legion (since you don't own the IP or have any sort of official sanction), so it'd be a case of keeping it simple. That said, I assume there is a way (perhaps even through this site) that one could execute a second funding tier for those wishing to give more to the event.

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angerZen
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Posted - 21 Aug 2013 :  16:56:03  Show Profile Send angerZen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1) I don't have any specific day in mind, but I think I'd prefer the event to happen later in the con rather than earlier. I thought this years time slot (aside from butting up against the WotC event) was a decent time for the event.

2) Again, I prefer later rather than earlier. I do like Kris the Grey's idea of a sort of after-event gathering for beverages somewhere. After this year's event, a nice craft beer sounded really good.

3) Theme: I'm open to whatever. To me, there really isn't a bad topic when it comes to FR.

4) Money: I'm fine with either a ticket price, or a donation box. I think a ticket price would work better as a donation box is easier to ignore. Honestly, I'd be happy to pay $10 per ticket for this event if it meant you guys wouldn't have to worry about paying for food/goodies/whatever for the event.

-Travis

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Emma Drake
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Posted - 21 Aug 2013 :  17:10:42  Show Profile  Visit Emma Drake's Homepage Send Emma Drake a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was actually going to suggest some sort of meet and greet on another thread, but since Kris and AngerZen have piped up about it...

I would love to put some faces with (screen)names. I was in a room full of people, whom I now realize are Candlekeep scribes, and had no idea who was who. What a missed opportunity for social nerd-dom!

I'd be happy (along with Kris) to help organize this. The way I see it, you can go three ways with it. Either you find a bar/restaurant and reserve space, you charge money and provide finger foods and beer/sodas (though I don't know if there may be rules about this and it may be that you can't provide alcohol at GenCon events without some sort of special permission - I'd have to research it), or you find an existing social event where we can go.

If the brewery area near the food trucks was open later than 11, that would be perfect. Unfortunately, it's not and I don't see us being able to get in any sort of decent social time before 11. It also cuts out anyone under 21 as they card people going into that area. I'm all about being inclusive so that's a big con in my book. One of my comrades went to a dance in the Crowne Plaza (which was free to get into) this year on Saturday and was really impressed with the mix of ages, set-up, and the fact that while there was music enough to dance, it wasn't so loud as to overwhelm conversation if people wanted to break off in groups to chat. You could also buy beverages there, though I don't think any food was available. Might be a viable option.

Should I start another scroll to foster a discussion about this?

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 21 Aug 2013 :  18:13:01  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I will pay extraordinary sums of money for the Harper Pin. Seriously. Or whatever else anyone might want.

1) I'm good with any days. I can understand both the professional and attendant reasons about going up against the Keynote and ENnnies, however. My personal preference would probably be Wednesdays or Fridays.

2) The 7-10pm is good, since it's rare that you're rushing to anything at 10pm (unless you're me and you didn't think through the end time vs. the start time of the Burlesque show ).

3) Waterdeep. Could do pins for Blackstaff, Blackstaff Tower, Undermountain, etc.

4) I'd be willing to pay for it! (And I'm not kidding, if anyone has an extra Harper pin or is willing to give theirs up, I will pay handsomely.)

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 21 Aug 2013 :  21:55:35  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wednesday is almost always best for me. I usually have obligations every other night of the Con. Alternatively, Sunday morning.

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BEAST
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Since "The Sundering" is the big event in the Realms for the time being, why not use a fancy version of The Sundering's logo for the pin?

Or how about a nice version of the Forgotten Realms logo (like the 1E version)?

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by BEAST

Since "The Sundering" is the big event in the Realms for the time being, why not use a fancy version of The Sundering's logo for the pin?

Or how about a nice version of the Forgotten Realms logo (like the 1E version)?

Has a canon seal ever been established for the Candlekeep Library?



i love the old school realms logo as well as the candlekeep pin idea

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Thanks for the feedback, everyone! A couple clarifying points:

1) ENnie conflict: This has little to do with the attendees and more to do with the authors/designers. Ed is almost always involved in some way with the ENnies, and a number of others are either required or just really want to go. So that's why it's an issue--not because I doubt the strength of Candlekeep Scribes's convictions.

2) Money: The real issue I see with this is that I love having the event be free and open to all. We could charge for entry (and take generic tickets as well), but we'd get fewer attendees and fewer walk-ins. Maybe we could set it up where if you contribute to the suggested donation box, you'd get a pin, and if you want food, there's money for that too. Hmm . . .

I like the concept of GoFundMe or something like that to help keep the event financially stable as well.

Keep the thoughts coming! I'm digesting them all.

Cheers

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Wooly Rupert
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Several folks have mentioned Waterdeep for a theme... I'm a huge fan of the City of Splendors, and getting a pin with the Waterdeep coat of arms would be truly nifty.

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The Sage
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I think I'd prefer a theme drawn from a lesser-used locale.

It would be a perfect opportunity to draw attention to, and develop further, a new theme for these kinds of forgotten/overlooked cities.

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George Krashos
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Erik, if you can, why don't you do a costing of what the total cost of the event would be in terms of food, pins, et. al. and post the anticipated cost here at the 'Keep and invite people who are attending to pledge donations? I know that might turn out to be inexact, but it will give a ballpark idea of whether what needs to be done can be pre-funded.

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Posted - 02 Sep 2013 :  06:24:18  Show Profile  Visit Nai_Calus's Homepage Send Nai_Calus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No clue yet if I'll be able to do 2014 or not, but if I can I'm so there.

Date: Friday or Saturday win for me. I prefer Friday, but yeah Ennies issues.
Time: Why not, say, 9am to noon? Earlier in the day means people are more awake, and doesn't conflict with any major events. Gives time for breakfast and ends right at lunch. Failing that, 7-10 is pretty good.
Theme: Elves, but I am biased horribly. ;) Waterdeep is pretty good as a theme though.
Cost: I'm down with donations or tickets. Honestly, games cost too, and this panel was probably the best part of the con for me. :) I pay anywhere from 4-8 dollars to play in a game at the con, and 3 hours of awesome stories and discussion is well worth paying for for me, even without the extras. With the awesome pins and such, it's even better. So yeah, I'd totally be down with either. $5-10?
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 02 Sep 2013 :  20:36:44  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why not a Harper pin?

With all the magical niftiness to go with it...

Not keen on either Waterdeep or The Sundering being the theme - I think Candlekeep itself is a theme, but whatever.

While waiting for last year's CK seminar, I went next door to a Cthulhu thingy (of all things!) just to ward-off boredom, and was pleasantly surprised... those folks know how to party! Please find the young woman who wore little more then a string wrapped around her body... I know she kept me in my seat until the very end (and made me late to the CK seminar). Scantily clad women (and men for the ladies... and others...) should be a given, considering the complete lack of morality in FR. Some booze, food, a rousing session of 'pin the tail on the 4e designer', strip-MtG, etc... and maybe, if we still have time, a very small discussion about FR (but only if we have time after all the fun stuff).

Barring some sort of catastrophic event, I have every intention of being there next year.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 03 Sep 2013 :  16:58:06  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Why not a Harper pin?

With all the magical niftiness to go with it...
That was this year, MT. Sorry you missed it!

Thanks for all the feedback. I'll get together with Brian and the James Brothers and hammer out a cost estimate. As I said, I like this event being free or as inexpensive as possible, but a little money in trade for a lot of coolness is reasonable.

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 03 Sep 2013 :  17:13:57  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, dang it... anyone want to trade? I have a limited-1st-edition.

Anyhow, I was just 'making light' above - very tongue-in-cheek (hope it came off that way). However, I did have a great time 'next door', despite my complete dislike of Lovecraftian stuff. I guess my point was, make it fun; build it, and they will come.

I have no idea how this year's went off, but last year's CK seminar was a hoot - Ed and James Lowder came off as a comedy duet - it was amazing. More like that, with food... and dancing girls.

I'd be more comfortable with a 'The Dales' or 'Cormyr' theme, because I am far more familiar with that region, but if the majority wants 'Waterdeep', then so be it. It would actually make a lot of sense if they are going to be releasing an expansion around that time (to tie everything together). I guess I can always go as Mirt...

Hmmmm.. I wouldn't need much in the way of makeup... maybe I just figured out why I dislike the guy so much.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Emma Drake
Learned Scribe

USA
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Posted - 03 Sep 2013 :  18:13:39  Show Profile  Visit Emma Drake's Homepage Send Emma Drake a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay


I'd be more comfortable with a 'The Dales' or 'Cormyr' theme, because I am far more familiar with that region, but if the majority wants 'Waterdeep', then so be it. It would actually make a lot of sense if they are going to be releasing an expansion around that time (to tie everything together). I guess I can always go as Mirt...

Hmmmm.. I wouldn't need much in the way of makeup... maybe I just figured out why I dislike the guy so much.



I suggested to someone, I think it was James Wyatt, that WotC should do a little Realms cosplay competition each year, as it's a growing hobby and people then become walking advertisements for the setting. No indication that they're interested, but I'm doing a Realms cosplay again (maybe even two!) and I'm even trying to wrangle a group. Because dressing up is fun! :)

"I am always here, all about you. You are never truly alone. I flow wherever life flows, wherever winds blow and water runs and the sun and moon chase each other, for there is magic in all things."

- Mystra (Ed Greenwood, Silverfall)
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Lord Bane
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Germany
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Posted - 03 Sep 2013 :  19:29:37  Show Profile Send Lord Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Realms cosplay? I shudder in horror of the legions of Drizzt clones.

The driving force in the multiverse is evil, for it forces good to act.
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