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Martivir
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Posted - 25 Apr 2012 :  19:12:14  Show Profile Send Martivir a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I hope this is the right forum for it...

I just stubled over the Tlinaclli while reading throug material about Amn. I never heard of them before.
The only article about them I found was inside of 3.5 edition's The Unterdark.

What are they?
Where are they from?
What happens to them until 1479 DR?
Are there any novels about them or related to this three sided conflict between Amnians, Murkul Sothillis of Murannheim/Muranndin and the Tlinaclli?

Thanks forward for the lore gathering within this pages. ^^
Martivir

Lord Karsus
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Posted - 25 Apr 2012 :  21:28:18  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-They are given 3e stats in Monsters of Faerūn, called 'Stingers'. They are basically Scorpion-people (just like Formians are Ant-people, Centaurs Horse-people, Wemic Lion-people, and so on) from Maztica. After Amn colonists landed in Maztica and began colonizing it, Tlinaclli- already living in the Underdark underneath Maztica and the Trackless Sea- eventually came to the Underdark beneath Faerūn, under Amn specifically, in the region that used to be the Dwarven kingdom of Xothaerin. They fought with the Salamanders that lived there, and bested them. They now are establishing a hive there, and are further exploring the Underdark and expanding.

-In terms of what they want, who knows. Their society is not very well understood.

-In terms of what happened to them, it was a plot hook that never received much attention, and with the removal of Maztica, probably will never.

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Markustay
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Posted - 25 Apr 2012 :  21:33:53  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Tlincallis (Scorpionmen) are from Maztica. After the Maztican trilogy (and the release of that Setting in 2e) the Scorpionmen became aware of Faerūn, and although I forget the specifics, they started tunneling beneath the Trackless Sea to reach it. Other races (Dwarves and Drow) had done this in the past (but coming from the opposite direction).

I believe at the outset of 3e, they got tired of digging and cast some sort of ritual that allowed them to simple teleport the rest of the distance (thats the famous "the designers want something to be somewhere so they just snap their fingers" approach to design).

Anyhow, they were natives of Maztica in 2e, and as of 3e they began living in Faerūn.

I left-out the supposed ritual in my homebrew version, and simply said they unearthed the tunnel that had brought the Drow and Dwarves to Maztica in the first place (it had caved-in, trapping them on the wrong side) - that would explain the sudden 'quick-march' beneath the ocean (because why they didn't just cast the ritual to begin with makes no sense).

I also gave them a Tiamet connection - their 'creator' in Mesopotamian mythology (I try to keep the various cosmologies compatible whenever possible). Basically they were Maztican Drow who choose to follow some local deities instead, who just happen to be aliases for the Draconic pantheon, When Lolth re-discovered her 'wayward drow', she turned them all into Scorpionmen (also gives them a connection to driders, which they are similar to). That happened long in the past, and is also all homebrew (except the RW connection between them and Tiamet, which is kinda cool).

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Edited by - Markustay on 25 Apr 2012 21:35:00
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Ayrik
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Posted - 25 Apr 2012 :  22:13:17  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This suggests the Shining South is a good area to drop the Savage Coast, since it also has history influenced by "manscorpions" and Aztec-style empires.

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MalariaMoon
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 :  00:05:09  Show Profile  Visit MalariaMoon's Homepage Send MalariaMoon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also check out the Scorpionfolk PEACH in the Adventuring section of the Candlekeep forum.
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rjfras
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Posted - 29 May 2012 :  06:23:09  Show Profile  Visit rjfras's Homepage Send rjfras a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The tlincalli have an entry in the Monstrous Compendium FR Appendix from 2nd edition.

Monsters of Faerun update them and explain how they got to Amn.

Check chapter 2 in Power of Faerun under the the section on the Sothillisian Empire, it talks about the tlincallis attack on Amn in 1374.
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Fellfire
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Posted - 29 May 2012 :  06:33:01  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Somewhat related are the Scorrow, drow-drider like scorpionfolk from Eberron.

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