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Dennis
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Posted - 17 Oct 2011 :  17:07:43  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Poll Question:

The rising stars of today may be the greats of tomorrow. There have been a number of fairly new fantasists who have proven their worth. Of course, I am not saying those not included in the options haven't proven theirs. As there are only 12 choices, then....

Of all that you've read, who is your favorite?


Results:
Patrick Rothfuss   [3%] 1 votes
Brent Weeks   [33%] 13 votes
Karen Miller   [0%] 0 votes
Robert V. S. Redick   [0%] 0 votes
Joe Abercrombie   [8%] 3 votes
Brandon Sanderson   [3%] 1 votes
Scott Lynch   [0%] 0 votes
Richard K. Morgan   [0%] 0 votes
Paul S. Kemp   [54%] 21 votes
Daniel Abraham   [0%] 0 votes
Brian Ruckley   [0%] 0 votes
Other   [0%] 0 votes


Poll Status: Open  »»   Total Votes: 39 counted  »»   Last Vote: 25 Oct 2012 19:35:57 

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Edited by - Dennis on 17 Oct 2011 19:17:17

Drakul
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Paul Kemp gets my vote.

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Dennis
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I would give Paul, Miller, Rothfuss, and Sanderson a tie. But since I can only vote one, I'd go for Paul.

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Artemas Entreri
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Interesting Poll. There are many authors on this list whom I have yet to read (*frown), but I voted for Brent Weeks. The Night Angel trilogy definitely presented a new flavor of fantasy for me and I am interested to see what he will do in the future. I still need to pick up the Black Prism too

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quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I would give Paul, Miller, Rothfuss, and Sanderson a tie. But since I can only vote one, I'd go for Paul.



Has Paul written anything non-realms related?

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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I would give Paul, Miller, Rothfuss, and Sanderson a tie. But since I can only vote one, I'd go for Paul.


Has Paul written anything non-realms related?

Star Wars novels, which I haven't read. [Not an avid sci-fi fan.]Also, he'll be publishing two original sword and sorcery novels with Angry Robot Books.

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Kilvan
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Paul, not only as a rising star but as one of the best around.
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Artemas Entreri
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quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I would give Paul, Miller, Rothfuss, and Sanderson a tie. But since I can only vote one, I'd go for Paul.


Has Paul written anything non-realms related?

Star Wars novels, which I haven't read. Not an avid sci-fi fan.



Same here. I read the Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter book and it was decent but I could never make a habit of reading sci-fi.

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Dennis
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I would have included David Dalglish, Peter V. Brett, and N.K. Jemisin in the options, as they are not only famous but "in some ways" have a fresh take on a genre that hardly delivers anything new.

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Artemas Entreri
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Another "relatively" new author whom I haven't anything from of late is Robert Newcomb. I love his stuff but it's been awhile since he has written anything. I hope he didn't pull a Robert Jordan

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Artemas Entreri
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FYI for anyone who is interested: "On 12/15/08 Robert Newcomb posted on his website that Del Rey will not be publishing any more books in this series and that he has not been able to find a new publisher yet" --copied from Wiki

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Dennis
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Being very partial to wizards, I was once inclined to read his debut novel, The Fifth Sorceress. But after reading so many vehement reviews on it, including that of a close friend of mine, I was discouraged. I sampled the first chapter, and it was okay, but not enough to rivet me. Though I wouldn't say I would not buy it. Someday, maybe.

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Artemas Entreri
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quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


Being very partial to wizards, I was once inclined to read his debut novel, The Fifth Sorceress. But after reading so many vehement reviews on it, including that of a close friend of mine, I was discouraged. I sampled the first chapter, and it was okay, but not enough to rivet me. Though I wouldn't say I would not buy it. Someday, maybe.



I love the series and think he does an excellent job of balancing the sword/sorcery/sneaking parts.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 Oct 2011 :  19:05:37  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've not heard of most of the authors on this poll. Some of the ones I have heard of, I've not read anything by.

This poll also seems rather subjective, with the "proven their worth" bit. What defines that? The results may also be skewed by including an FR author and asking the question on an FR forum (no disrespect to Mr. Kemp; just pointing out that it's like walking into an Apple store and asking which is better, Apple or Microsoft?).

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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


Being very partial to wizards, I was once inclined to read his debut novel, The Fifth Sorceress. But after reading so many vehement reviews on it, including that of a close friend of mine, I was discouraged. I sampled the first chapter, and it was okay, but not enough to rivet me. Though I wouldn't say I would not buy it. Someday, maybe.


I love the series and think he does an excellent job of balancing the sword/sorcery/sneaking parts.

Their magic is limited to the use of 'blood,' right?

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Oh, I forgot to mention Gail Z. Martin. Her novels seem formulaic, but his characters have always been interesting. Her vampires do not brood and her necromancers are rather neutral-aligned.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 17 Oct 2011 :  19:28:33  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


Being very partial to wizards, I was once inclined to read his debut novel, The Fifth Sorceress. But after reading so many vehement reviews on it, including that of a close friend of mine, I was discouraged. I sampled the first chapter, and it was okay, but not enough to rivet me. Though I wouldn't say I would not buy it. Someday, maybe.


I love the series and think he does an excellent job of balancing the sword/sorcery/sneaking parts.

Their magic is limited to the use of 'blood,' right?

----

Oh, I forgot to mention Gail Z. Martin. Her novels seem formulaic, but his characters have always been interesting. Her vampires do not brood and her necromancers are rather neutral-aligned.



Yeah the magic is based on blood signatures which determine how much power you will be able to use. Interesting twist, nice battles

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How does that work exactly? Are they like vampires, drinking blood? Or do they use blood as some kind of staple spell component?

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 18 Oct 2011 :  00:30:03  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've not heard of most of the authors on this poll. Some of the ones I have heard of, I've not read anything by.

This poll also seems rather subjective, with the "proven their worth" bit. What defines that? The results may also be skewed by including an FR author and asking the question on an FR forum (no disrespect to Mr. Kemp; just pointing out that it's like walking into an Apple store and asking which is better, Apple or Microsoft?).




I am with you on this one. Also: I love the Forgotten Realms books and authors, but even the best ones can't compare to the epic 500+ page decade spanning independant fantasy series that are out there.

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quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

Another "relatively" new author whom I haven't anything from of late is Robert Newcomb. I love his stuff but it's been awhile since he has written anything. I hope he didn't pull a Robert Jordan



Ugh. Robert Jordan never had any talent as an author in my opinion. Read the first book of his, and couldn't stand his writing style or the story. I never will understand why he was "popular" at all.

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Artemas Entreri
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quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


How does that work exactly? Are they like vampires, drinking blood? Or do they use blood as some kind of staple spell component?



My memory is a little hazy on the exact details, but the magic is based on what kind of blood signature you have...sort of like DNA. A drop of someone's blood will actually make a shape/rune (signature) on a piece of paper. It's more like learning to use an inate ability.

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Personally, I love Paul Kemp, but I had to go with Brent Weeks. I adored the Night Angel Trilogy and he did not disappoint with Black Prism either.

I, too, would have added Peter V. Brett.

Edited by - Brynweir on 18 Oct 2011 00:37:36
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've not heard of most of the authors on this poll. Some of the ones I have heard of, I've not read anything by.
I'm the same.

Thus, I can really only say Brandon Sanderson, because he's the option whose works I'm most familiar with.

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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


How does that work exactly? Are they like vampires, drinking blood? Or do they use blood as some kind of staple spell component?



My memory is a little hazy on the exact details, but the magic is based on what kind of blood signature you have...sort of like DNA. A drop of someone's blood will actually make a shape/rune (signature) on a piece of paper. It's more like learning to use an inate ability.

Interesting.

I heard the villains in the series are mostly powerful sorceresses. Hmm, good thing I am not really a feminist, otherwise…. The implication that most male spellcasters are good and female, evil, would absolutely be frowned upon by feminists.

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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by Brynweir

Personally, I love Paul Kemp, but I had to go with Brent Weeks. I adored the Night Angel Trilogy and he did not disappoint with Black Prism either.

I, too, would have added Peter V. Brett.

I have never been a fan of Weeks's writing style, but his characters are quite interesting and stay long in my memory. I love the twists and multiple sub-plots he weaved.

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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by MalariaMoon

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Sultan? I rather like the sound of Zulkir.

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Marc
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from that list Joe Abercrombie way above others, I don't know about Miller

1. Abercrombie
2. Rothfuss
...
3. Sanderson
4. Lynch
5. Redick
6. Abraham
7. Kemp
8. Morgan (only read his first novel, SF)
...
9. Weeks
10. Ruckley
11. Brett

My list would include Matthew Stover, Ian Esselmont, Paul Kearney, R. Scott Bakker

And if any of these authors are in this category, Vandermeer, Sapkowski, Miéville, K.J Parker

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quote:
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My list would include Matthew Stover, ...
Oooo! I'll second this choice. Stover's STAR WARS novels are phenomenal.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Marc

My list would include Matthew Stover, ...
Oooo! I'll second this choice. Stover's STAR WARS novels are phenomenal.

I haven't read his Star Wars books, but his Test of Metal is great.

quote:
Originally posted by Marc

from that list Joe Abercrombie way above others, I don't know about Miller.


And if I'd make a poll, The Most Handsome Author, I guess he'd win.

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Karen Miller is the author of Kingmaker, Kingbreaker Duology, The Fisherman's Children Duology, and The Godspeaker Trilogy. Her latest novel is the stand-alone A Blight of Mages, which is quite epic. It's like The Simbul meets [young] Szass Tam.

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Paul S. Kemp. He is highly favored by Lady Shar.

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I voted Paul S. Kemp mainly for his Star Wars stuff because the Cale story in the first book in the Sembia series is the only FR stuff of his I've gotten to so far, but probably should have just stayed off the 'vote' button having not read something by everyone on the list.
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