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Victor_ograygor
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Posted - 10 May 2008 :  05:20:39  Show Profile  Visit Victor_ograygor's Homepage Send Victor_ograygor a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Readying an Action question?

Sometimes there has to be room fore stupid questions… If this is on of them

My question is / an undead is waiting in a cave fore a spell caster to teleport to a specific spot, \the undead is intelligent and is readying an action fore the wizard to appear. Could the undead do this, fore eternity?

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Afetbinttuzani
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Posted - 10 May 2008 :  05:51:29  Show Profile  Visit Afetbinttuzani's Homepage Send Afetbinttuzani a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I guess the question is, would an intelligent undead get bored and distracted? I don't know.
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TheArchPriest
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Posted - 10 May 2008 :  23:05:16  Show Profile  Visit TheArchPriest's Homepage Send TheArchPriest a Private Message  Reply with Quote
yes he can,but I really think he will have something better to do while he waits

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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 12 May 2008 :  00:02:03  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I mean... eternity is a long time... he's better off earning levels and taking the Craft Contingent Spell feat, and craft such a spell to go off "When a spellcaster teleports at coordinates xyz."

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Hawkins
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Posted - 12 May 2008 :  16:10:26  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The answer is, "Yes, he could." As to whether he "would" or not, that would depend on the player or DM.

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Posted - 12 May 2008 :  21:10:43  Show Profile  Visit LordArcana's Homepage Send LordArcana a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In my saturday group one of the players made the comment "I am going to always be ready for such and such" The DM told him to stand up for a moment so Marc stood up. The DM told him..."I am going to kick you in the balls. Not right now, but sometime tonight. I want to you be ready for it."

It took marc about 10 minutes before he lost interest and dropped his guard.

The point is how can you "always" be ready? Even undead stand the chance to be distracted or just grow bored.
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Victor_ograygor
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Posted - 13 May 2008 :  11:45:06  Show Profile  Visit Victor_ograygor's Homepage Send Victor_ograygor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks fore all your answers

First - Undead thinks and acts differently, from living beings.

Second – An undead created and under control wouldn’t be able to do anything ells.

Third – If you can do this with an undead you cold command a golem to do it too.

The big thing about this is that ready an action is a powerful tool and could be used to the extreme

1. An example could be that a couple of undead ore golems with spell casting abilities could wait behind a door and ready an action fore eternity. And the first person opening the door would supper the consequences of their ready action.

2. The example with the undead waiting in the cave fore the wizard to appear on the spot as he used to do, would result like this the undead attacks the wizard before he could do anything.

I don’t allow living creatures to ready an action fore more then 25 rounds but its different ore undead and golems, because their mindset is different.

Readying an Action
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/specialInitiativeActions.htm#ready

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Arstella
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Posted - 14 May 2008 :  16:06:10  Show Profile  Visit Arstella's Homepage Send Arstella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would say nope. Readying an Action is an action applicable to the round-by-round structure, while unfit to longer time scales. In this case, the undead and the wizard will both roll initiatives normally, regardless of whom was doing what before the beginning of the encounter. I think these rules are somewhere in the core rulebooks...maybe?

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Bladewind
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Yes. Within the rules you cant start a ready action without being in combat, you have to have an action to adjust to a new initiative score. You cannot ready an action longer than one round actually. (You can choose to renew the ready action of course.)

An undead can stand for eternity on guard for a door hoping to get a surprize round on something when the door opens, but unless he has somesort of awareness of his target before the door opens he will have to roll for initiative.

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Victor_ograygor
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Posted - 16 May 2008 :  09:49:45  Show Profile  Visit Victor_ograygor's Homepage Send Victor_ograygor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I haven’t read anything that mentions this… back to the books.. Thanks

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