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Ioulaum
Acolyte
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
 Posted - 11 Dec 2007 : 18:47:56
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| Ick, I'm not impressed with the animation either. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2007 : 20:58:08
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Hmmm.. classic cartoon and CGI is not a good mix  . |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2007 : 22:22:28
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Dart Ambermoon
Learned Scribe
Germany
253 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2007 : 22:32:01
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2007 : 23:00:10
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The animation certainly left a lot to be desired... And the CGI was just jarring. And there at the end of the trailer, was that a green dragon breathing fire?  |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 00:21:49
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The animation certainly left a lot to be desired... And the CGI was just jarring. And there at the end of the trailer, was that a green dragon breathing fire?
Brutal, talk about back to the 80's!!
Am I wrong or couldn't all DL dragons breath "simple fire" then only the reds and golds breathe "dragonfire"? |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 01:17:38
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Am I wrong or couldn't all DL dragons breath "simple fire" then only the reds and golds breathe "dragonfire"?
I don't recall anything being different about DL draconic breath weapons. |
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 01:36:34
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The animation certainly left a lot to be desired... And the CGI was just jarring. And there at the end of the trailer, was that a green dragon breathing fire?
Actually at around 1:12 ALL of the dragon's heads are breathing fire. I'll have to refresh my memory, but this does not seem right.
BTW, the official site says this is a rough cut trailer that they used at GenCon - they are having trouble releasing a "finished" trailor due to "talent issues" (Like Kiefer Sutherland - Raistlin- being in jail maybe?) |
Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D
He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness. 
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 01:46:28
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Originally posted by Brynweir
BTW, the official site says this is a rough cut trailer that they used at GenCon - they are having trouble releasing a "finished" trailor due to "talent issues"...
Well, that can't be a good thing! |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 02:20:11
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
And there at the end of the trailer, was that a green dragon breathing fire?
What!?! Where's the chlorine gas?  quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
Am I wrong or couldn't all DL dragons breath "simple fire" then only the reds and golds breathe "dragonfire"?
DL dragons have breath weapons that vary by subspecies of dragon.
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 03:03:43
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Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
And there at the end of the trailer, was that a green dragon breathing fire?
What!?! Where's the chlorine gas? quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
Am I wrong or couldn't all DL dragons breath "simple fire" then only the reds and golds breathe "dragonfire"?
DL dragons have breath weapons that vary by subspecies of dragon.
Ah, The perils of too many novels with to many differences floating in my head! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 09:03:09
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Brutal, talk about back to the 80's!!
That would be a good thing in my book. This, unfortunatly does not look good; one can only hope that what they say about it being a rough version is true. |
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
527 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 09:30:16
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 13:19:09
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| - no comment in order to keeo in line with the CoC - |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 14:16:04
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Originally posted by Jorkens
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Brutal, talk about back to the 80's!!
That would be a good thing in my book. This, unfortunatly does not look good; one can only hope that what they say about it being a rough version is true.
Heh. There's "good 80s" and "bad 80s". This would be bad 80s. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
527 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 15:17:26
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There are some things that just shouldn't be done... |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 15:59:10
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Jorkens
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Brutal, talk about back to the 80's!!
That would be a good thing in my book. This, unfortunatly does not look good; one can only hope that what they say about it being a rough version is true.
Heh. There's "good 80s" and "bad 80s". This would be bad 80s.
Well, someone should have a small talk with Rankin/Bass. That is a version I would love to see. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 16:11:17
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Originally posted by Jorkens
Well, someone should have a small talk with Rankin/Bass. That is a version I would love to see.
*grins*
Conventionally animated...or stop-motion animated? |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 13 Dec 2007 : 00:11:06
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens
Well, someone should have a small talk with Rankin/Bass. That is a version I would love to see.
*grins*
Conventionally animated...or stop-motion animated?
Your absolutely wicked aren't you? |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 13 Dec 2007 : 00:48:05
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A stop-motion movie would be cute, really! |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1707 Posts |
Posted - 13 Dec 2007 : 03:16:48
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
A stop-motion movie would be cute, really!
The Nightmare Before Shieldmeet....
I'd see that.
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 13 Dec 2007 : 06:42:33
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
A stop-motion movie would be cute, really!
I'd see it . But I did mean a conventionaly animated movie. |
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Iliana N-letur
Acolyte
Netherlands
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Posted - 13 Dec 2007 : 15:27:14
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| Being less than impressed here. |
A small (4'9") moon elf, with odd pale golden hair and startling violet eyes. See her for the first time, there's fair bit of Faerie 'fascinate' involved.
A slightly curved sword and pseudo dragon familiar are never far away. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 14 Dec 2007 : 01:55:10
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| Claymation would kick this trailers Butt |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 14 Dec 2007 : 08:12:11
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Jorkens
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Brutal, talk about back to the 80's!!
That would be a good thing in my book. This, unfortunatly does not look good; one can only hope that what they say about it being a rough version is true.
Heh. There's "good 80s" and "bad 80s". This would be bad 80s.
And good 80s would be... I can't think of anything except some Billy Bragg or Housemartins albums, oh, and dancing germans on the Berlin Wall. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 14 Dec 2007 : 11:59:57
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Originally posted by Kajehase
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Jorkens
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Brutal, talk about back to the 80's!!
That would be a good thing in my book. This, unfortunatly does not look good; one can only hope that what they say about it being a rough version is true.
Heh. There's "good 80s" and "bad 80s". This would be bad 80s.
And good 80s would be... I can't think of anything except some Billy Bragg or Housemartins albums, oh, and dancing germans on the Berlin Wall.
You forget old editions of D&D and early swedish heavy metal The list goes on and on. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 14 Dec 2007 : 15:27:55
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Originally posted by Kajehase
And good 80s would be... I can't think of anything except... oh, and dancing germans on the Berlin Wall.
Thanks for mentioning that!
I do remember one other tihng though bringing this topic closer to being Realms related - the old gray box was published in the 80s (1987) too! |
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Lady Fellshot
Senior Scribe
USA
379 Posts |
Posted - 16 Dec 2007 : 21:52:27
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Originally posted by Ioulaum
Has anyone seen it yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHrOfJ8_D0o
The animation is atrocity.
First 4th ed and now this. Can't WotC do anything right?
The animation is dated. CG or no, if their target audience is in the 12-15 year old age bracket, then they were looking at the wrong action cartoons to use as models. It looks too much like GI Joe, He-Man and She-Ra, all geared for the age group below (7-11). They really should have been looking at the Batman and X-men animated series. Wierdly enough, it does look like some of the DVDs beginning to be released with toys nowadays...
I do not really have a preference for CG animation or traditional animation styles, but when the two are used in combination, I do expect that they are sutured together so that a viewer cannot tell where one style ends and the other begins in the sequence. It's jarring otherwise. I'd be willing to bet that this is a straight to DVD release.
I hope that if WotC decides to do an animated Realms flick, they will have the good sense to farm the work out to an animation studio with better technique, say Studio Ghibli or Production IG or some other company with a similar style and attention to detail with regards to combining animation techniques. I really hate seeing good stories wrecked by lousy animation. |
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Karzak
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 17 Dec 2007 : 18:21:26
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Wow, this is perfectly hideous. They need to watch something like Ghost in the Shell (either movies or TV series) to, you know, see how animation and CGI mix can be done right.
Kek at the "straight to DVD" thing. Hahaha. |
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
436 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2007 : 02:00:26
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I kind of like the style used for Escaflowne the movie - It seemed a mix to me, but what do I know? I'd like to see DL done in a similar way - it seemed very dark and forbodeing.
And yeah - even though this is the "unfinished" trailor, it has straight to DVD written all over it. |
Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D
He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.
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